There is also a program at the University of Maryland. j-----Original Message-----From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf OfCharles.EmbreySent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:42 AMTo: Joe Nocito; Jesus Ellin; cfockler@mail1.vcu.eduCc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.eduSubject: RE: [Histonet] Grossing TechHell Joe, you're in San Antonio.  Almost anywhere in the U.S. is "upnorth" to you.  The most southern program is at Duke and all the restare either in New England or near the great lakes.  There is nothingwest of the Mississippi and I do think that it is because of thepopulation centers.  Ohio State and Rosalind Franklin are the newestschools and I am sure more will open because of the increasing demandfor PA's.Chuck   -----Original Message-----From: Joe Nocito [mailto:JNocito@Pathreflab.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:32 AMTo: Charles.Embrey; Jesus Ellin; cfockler@mail1.vcu.eduCc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.eduSubject: RE: [Histonet] Grossing TechChuck,is any reason given as to why all the programs are up north? Is it asupplyand demand issue?Joe Nocito-----Original Message-----From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf OfCharles.EmbreySent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:49 AMTo: Jesus Ellin; cfockler@mail1.vcu.eduCc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.eduSubject: RE: [Histonet] Grossing TechOnce you have already started you will probably have to appeal to thePathologists' sense of fair play.  Here are the training sites:Training Programs for Pathologists' AssistantsThe National Accrediting Agency for Clinical Laboratory Sciences(NAACLS) board of directors voted in 1995 to accept the Essentials ofAccredited Training Programs for the Pathologists' Assistant,establishing a process of accreditation for pathologists' assistanttraining programs.  Adoption of NAACLS Essentials ensures a uniformstandard of excellence for the training of pathologists assistants. Thefollowing training programs have been accredited by NAACLS and provideacademic and practical training leading to either a master's degree or abachelor's degree.Duke University - MHS, 2 yearsClaudia Brady,MHS, Program DirectorDepartment of PathologyPO Box 3712Durham, NC 27710919.684.2159Tara Mann - student liaison535 Crossview DriveDurham, NC 27703mann0025@mc.duke.eduQuinnipiac University - MHS, 2 yearsScott Farber, Graduate Admissions Director275 Mount Carmel AveHamden, CT 06518203.582.8795graduate@quinnipiac.edu------Leo Kelly, MHS, Clinical Coordinator(contact for employment opportunities)203.932.5711 x4758Ray Schneider - student liaisonNorwalk HospitalDept. of Pathology24 Stevens St.Norwalk, CT  06856(203)-852-2657raymond.schneider@norwalkhealth.orgUniversity of Maryland - MS, 2 yearsRaymond Jones, PhD, Program DirectorDepartment of Pathology22 S Greene StBaltimore, MD 21201410.328.1221rjones@som.umaryland.eduKatie Flickinger - student liaisonDept. of Pathology600 N. Wolfe St.Pathology B 107ABaltimore, MD  21287-6667(443)-287-6134kflicki1@jhmi.eduWayne State University - BS, 2 yearsPeter Frade, PhD, Program DirectorDepartment of Mortuary Sciences5439 Woodward AveDetroit, MI 48202313.577.2050ab8123@wayne.eduLeena Budev and Anne Hildebrandt - student liasionsAnatomic Pathologists' Assistant ProgramWayne State UniversityDept. of Mortuary Science5439 Woodward Ave.Detroit, MI  48202(313)-966-0575lbudev@dmc.org and arh1214@aol.comOhio State University - MS, 2 yearsCharles Hitchcock, MD, PhD, Program DirectorGretchen Staschiak, Pathology Education CoordinatorN-308A Doan Hall410 W Tenth AveColumbus, Ohio  43210614.293.3055staschiak.2@osu.eduSandra Banky - student liaisonOSU Medical Center417 East Doan Hall410 West 10th AvenueColumbus, OH  43210(614)-293-4875banky-1@medctr.osu.eduRosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science - MS, 2 yearsJohn Vitale, MHS, Program Director & Clinical CoordinatorPathologists' Assistant Department3333 Green Bay RoadNorth Chicago, IL 60064847.578.8638john.vitale@rosalindfranklin.eduTrina A.Sherlitz, PT, MS, Clinical Coordinatortrina.sherlitz@rosalindfranklin.eduKaren Skish - student liaison(630) 926-9561karenskish@comcast.netPlease Note:  Graduates of non-NAACLS accredited training programs areeligible for membership; however, at least one year of work experienceis required to become eligible for the AAPA Fellowship Exam.If you have any problems or questions concerning accreditation, pleasecontact:Daniel TiceStaff Program Coordinator dtice@naacls.orgorDr. Olive KimballExecutive Directorkimball@naacls.orgFurther information about NAACLS (National Accrediting Agency forClinical Laboratory Sciences) may be obtained from www.naacls.org ornaaclsinfo@naacls.org.-----Original Message-----From: Jesus Ellin [mailto:JEllin@yumaregional.org]Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:30 AMTo: Charles.Embrey; cfockler@mail1.vcu.eduCc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.eduSubject: RE: [Histonet] Grossing TechCharles you mentioned that this needs to be done before you start, howcan a person go about asking for this once he is in this situation.  andwere is the PA schools that are specific to Pathologist Assistants??Jesus EllinYuma Regional Medical Center>>> "Charles.Embrey"  02/17/05 09:15AM >>>First, my job description would have to be finalized and pay raise setbefore I opened my first specimen jar.  Once you have started the dutiesyour employer has lost his incentive to get this done.  As far as payraise is concerned it would really depend on the extent of your grossingand time involved.  Personally I think the raise negotiations shouldstart at $5.00 for small biopsies and increase with the level ofspecimen difficulty.  The biggest problem I have found is that peopletend to underestimate their worth.  The only other option for grossingis a pathologist or pathologists' assistant and you would still be asteal with a $5.00 raise.  If you enjoy grossing you should apply to oneof the PA schools.  It is only an additional two years of school, one ofwhich is actual grossing at clinical sites.  I teach second year PAstudents from Rosalind Franklin University in Chicago and my twostudents that graduate in April have already signed great contracts.Good LuckCharles Embrey PA(ASCP)Urbana, IL-----Original Message-----From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Ofcfockler@mail1.vcu.eduSent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:33 AMTo: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.eduSubject: [Histonet] Grossing TechJust a quick question.. . what is the average pay increase to go froma standard histotech, to a grossing tech? (with a B.S.) And, how longon average should it take to see it in your job description and yourpaycheck?Thanks!C. 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