RE: [Histonet] Grossing


The standards are very clear and leave no room for a grey area but the
problem is that there are two standards.  CAP, which is an organization
run by pathologists, for pathologists, downgraded federal standards to
meet their own agenda.  The CLIA '88 standard is not all that high
either. You do not have to be a pathologist or PA to gross but you must
meet standards as high complexity testing personnel. College credit
about equal to an associate's degree with certain hours towards biology
and chemistry will get you there.  Now the idea of proper compensation
is a whole new ball of wax.  The reason many pathologists hire folks
other than PA's to gross is to save money and will try to get by paying
as little as possible.  As long as there a people willing to do it for
lab assistant pay or less, the practice will continue.
Charles Embrey, PA(ASCP)   

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesus Ellin [] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:30 AM
To: Charles.Embrey
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Grossing

The problem comes down to, that there needs to be a black and white
answer so that there is no room for gray.  From speaking with other
techs and professionals that including Pathologists, this is done to
help alleviate the stress of the pathologists having to do gross.  But
there are not enough Pathologists or Pathologists Assistants to do the
job.  IF this is going to be a new area that is being explored for Histo
techs to do, how do we come up with a compensation for this type of
work??  What is everyone else's feeling towards this matter?  Are any
other labs seeing this trend take place?? 

Jesus A. Ellin HT ASCP
Yuma Regional Medical Center
Histology Systems Technologist
Pathology Information Systems
928-336-7444 or 928-336-1144
Fax: 928-336-7319

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