are you sure it's the willies and not the johnnies?
Since the magnetron or whatever it was that fried my tissue, I'd wait for
the traditional processing. Call me a dinosaur, but I really don't like
doing special stains in the microwave. The only thing I use a microwave for
at my house is to defrost and reheat stuff (technical term). I'm sure there
are people out there who can cook a 6 course gourmet meal. My best friend
can process all types of tissue from biopsies to uterus.
As a matter of fact, he was there grossing when something went wrong and
told me that he's never seen tissue like that before.
JTT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil McArdle"
To: "Joe Nocito"
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Microwaves VENDOR RESPONSE
> Hi Joe:
>
> No argument there. I'm painfully aware of both a mindset of "a microwave
> 'should' cost less than $100," and of a dearth of funding for pathology in
> general (popular shows like CSI to the contrary). :-) I'd still suggest
> that $1749 is a heck of a lot better (and a lot less laughable) than the
> $18,000 or $30,000 that's widely quoted and posted, and it's the exact
> reason we brought an under-$2000 lab microwave to market in the first
> place.
>
> One could argue just as convincingly against all kinds of specialized
> equipment or reagents on the basis of cost, not just microwaves. We all
> know of everything from saliva to cheap rice steamers being used in histo
> labs, and while they may actually be perfectly serviceable, from the
> standpoint of repeatability or liability, this kind of thing gives me the
> willies (and that's a technical term). My yardstick is always "what would
> I be comfortable with if my kid's diagnosis hung in the balance?"
>
> Healthy debate is good!
>
> Phil
> --
> Phil McArdle
> Microwave Product Manager
>
> Energy Beam Sciences, Inc.
> 29-B Kripes Rd.
> East Granby, CT 06026
>
> Tel: 800.992.9037 x 341
> Mobile: 860.597.6796
> Fax: 860.653.0422
>
> pmcardle@ebsciences.com
> www.ebsciences.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Nocito wrote:
>> ok, but with the budgets today, many people can't afford a $1749
>> microwave when they can buy one at Walmart, K-Mart, or somewhere else for
>> $79.
>> Not to make you angry or anything, but I'm wondering how long has it
>> been since you worked in a lab? Histo's budget is the first one cut in
>> the lab because we are not essential.
>> I can't count how many times I fought and fought for my budgets.
>> If I tried to justify a $1749 microwave for special stains, HIER or
>> whatever, I would have been laughed out the manager's office.
>> Just my 4 cents.
>>
>> JTT
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil McArdle"
>>
>> To: "Kathleen Boozer"
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Microwaves VENDOR RESPONSE
>>
>>
>>> Again, a microwave vendor weighs in (so far I haven't received any
>>> flames), so read at your own risk. :-)
>>>
>>> At the risk of sounding overly and overtly commercial, after reading
>>> post after post of $30,000+ and $18,000 and similarly high figures for
>>> lab microwaves, I really feel the need to set the record straight.
>>> Depending on the usage requirements, we have laboratory microwaves as
>>> low as $1749 for a "bare bones" model for simple operations, to
>>> mid-priced units, to under $11,000 for a vacuum equipped microwave
>>> processor capable of the +/- 0.5 degree C temperature control necessary
>>> for tissue processing.
>>>
>>> (I can feel the heat already!)
>>>
>>> There are many compelling reasons to replace a kitchen microwave with a
>>> lab model; feel free to download, read, and even share with colleagues
>>> our Microwave Companion at
>>>
>>> http://www.ebsciences.com/pdf/EBS_MW_COMPANION.pdf
>>>
>>> Best regards, and see you at NSH,
>>>
>>> Phil McArdle
>>>
>>> --
>>> Phil McArdle
>>> Microwave Product Manager
>>>
>>> Energy Beam Sciences, Inc.
>>> 29-B Kripes Rd.
>>> East Granby, CT 06026
>>>
>>> Tel: 800.992.9037 x 341
>>> Mobile: 860.597.6796
>>> Fax: 860.653.0422
>>>
>>> pmcardle@ebsciences.com
>>> www.ebsciences.com
>>>
>>> Kathleen Boozer wrote:
>>>> What is the best microwave for a small lab using it only for heating
>>>> Bouin's and Silver Nitrate for special stains? I just can't believe I
>>>> would have to spend $30,000+ or slow down and use a waterbath.
>>>>
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> Microwave Product Manager
>
> Energy Beam Sciences, Inc.
> 29-B Kripes Rd.
> East Granby, CT 06026
>
> Tel: 800.992.9037 x 341
> Mobile: 860.597.6796
> Fax: 860.653.0422
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> www.ebsciences.com
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