RE: [Histonet] cpt codes for direct smears

From:"Weems, Joyce"

It's my understanding that 88329 is a professional charge - not to be used for technical charges. Is this incorrect?Thanks,JoyceJoyce WeemsPathology ManagerSaint Joseph's Hospital 5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Rd NEAtlanta, GA 30342404-851-7376 - Phone404-851-7831 - Fax-----Original Message-----From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Baez,JanetSent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:14 PMTo: Maray Weirauch; bwhitaker@brownpathology.com;histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Barb.Richmond@mckennan.org;jnocito@pathreflab.comSubject: RE: [Histonet] cpt codes for direct smearsWe also bill for an 88329.Janet E. BaezHistology ManagerInterscope PathologyCanoga Park, Ca.-----Original Message-----From: Maray Weirauch [mailto:mweirauch@crittenton.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:18 AMTo: bwhitaker@brownpathology.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu;Barb.Richmond@mckennan.org; jnocito@pathreflab.comSubject: RE: [Histonet] cpt codes for direct smearsWe have also been denied payment when using 88160 or 88161.  The Centersfor Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) have taken the stand thatcytopathology codes 88160, 88161 and 88162 can not be reported for thesame patient on the same date of service with codes 88304 to 88309,'Level III through VI - Surgical pathology, gross and microscopicexamination.'  CMS said it considers cytopathology smears prepared fromsurgical pathology specimens as duplicate procedures that should not bereported separately.  They will allow the use of modifier -59 for bypassif the cytopathology smears are performed on separate specimens andindependent diagnoses are rendered. That scenario never seems to apply to our situation, so we also billfor a Pathology consultation during surgery, 88329.>>> "Bonnie Whitaker"  9/27/2005 10:22:49AM >>>According to our billing company, we were being denied 88160 or 88161ifpermanent sections were being done on the same specimen.  We arebilling an88329 for those.  What has everyone else's experience been?Bonnie Whitaker-----Original Message-----From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of JoeNocitoSent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:05 AMTo: 'Barb Richmond'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] cpt codes for direct smearsWe use 88160, other than gynecological for direct smearsJoe Nocito, BS, HT(ASCP) QIHCHistology ManagerPathology Reference LabSan Antonio, TX-----Original Message-----From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of BarbRichmondSent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:29 PMTo: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] cpt codes for direct smearsI need to know what cpt code to use for a direct smear that is madefromtissue and stained on the quick frozen section stain line. Anysuggestions??_______________________________________________Histonet mailing listHistonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________Histonet mailing listHistonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________Histonet mailing listHistonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet_______________________________________________Histonet mailing listHistonet@lists.utsouthwestern.eduhttp://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet_______________________________________________Histonet mailing listHistonet@lists.utsouthwestern.eduhttp://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonetConfidentiality Notice ** The information contained in this message may be privileged and is confidential information intended for the use of the addressee listed above. If you are neither the intended recipient nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer.Thank you. Saint Josephs Health System, Inc.

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