RE: [Histonet] New ASCP Classification and You


Since I am the one who originated the question and issue I will answer this also.  My reasons for being upset were I had heard nothing about this until this year and I could not get an answer other than the board sent a letter to ASCP saying they would not condon the HA licsence last year.  

I ask a number of people and found the majority were completely unaware of the possible addition and had not been informed by either their region director, president, NSH board or NSH representative to ASCP or ASCP.  This is something that can effect all of us still in the field and should have been disclosed and explained to the membership of NSH and Histologist in general by ASCP.  As Marilyn Gamble is the reperesentative to ASCP perhaps she and the board should have let us know.  If she asks ASCP now, I firmly believe this should be sent to everyone or published where it can be seen and understood as either a Yes or No.    

If ASCP and NSH are upset because of this question perhaps next time the disclosure will be more complete and timely.

Pam Marcum

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> Before we all get bent out of shape about this we need to verify that ASCP 
> is really going forward with this classification or not. I am on the NSH 
> BOD and at no time did we have any discussions about this with the 
> assumption that ASCP is going forward with this. We need to ask Marilyn 
> Gamble the NSH ASCP representative to clarify. 
> Patsy 
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> I think this is a step backwards for this field. By approving of such a 
> category they are sending the message this job is so easy you can just take 
> anyone off the street give them a few lessons and out will pop your insitu 
> hybridization. Your payscale will go backwards. 
> I cannot imagine how anyone can understand what they are doing in this 
> rather complex field without a basic knowledge of the scientific and 
> technical principals you are using every day. Between the myriad of 
> histochemical stains you need to know, you have now added 
> immunohistochemistry and molecular techniques. These are very sophisticated 
> scientific procedures. Think about the minutia of details and experience as 
> well as technical information about your microtomes that is required just to 
> get a nice clean unshattered ribbon of a GI biopsy. Sure, you can show 
> someone the technical maneuvers in your free time but they will not reach 
> nearly the same level of quality without a knowledge of the principals. As 
> the guy reading the slides I would rather see your field require formal 
> education and certification at all levels. I have no problem with OJ T's 
> performing clerk duties, filing and such, but it is a bit scary to think of 
> letting one of these loose on my biopsies or cover immunos becase every one 
> is on vacation. 
> My suggestion for these HA's is to designate an approved set of duties, much 
> like doctors are given privileges for certain procedures and not others when 
> we join a staff. Have them register with NSH as HA's in training. Make them 
> complete classes and pass certification exams on a curriculum which is 
> appropriate for their duties in a given time period. At least it would be 
> like taking a correspondence course. 
> Stephen 
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