Re: Crappy Attitude/Delete Please

From:Marsha R Price

Dear Histonetters,
Please hit your delete key, I meant to send this as a personal reply.
Sorry.
Marsha


On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 22:28:41 -0500 Marsha R Price 
writes:
> Sue,
> Have you heard the song by Cheryl Crow. One of the lines go "If it 
> makes
> you happy, then why the h--- are you so sad?" Or in your instance I 
> guess
> we could change it to mad.
> 
> Apparently, you did not read all the messages before this list.
> 
> I LOVE Histology, I have never been bored with the rapidly changing 
> field
> of histology.
> 
> I am for the education requirement, I think it is an excellent idea 
> and
> raises our standards, I only wish they would require a minimum of an 
> AS
> instead of the 60 SCH.
> 
> My original question was "With the education requirement that is to 
> take
> effect in 2005, will histotechs pay be raised?"
> 
> I have been enlightened and thoroughly informed by my fellow 
> histonetters
> regarding this matter and I respect your opinion even if I do not 
> agree
> with you.
> 
> Marsha
> 
> On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 12:18:57 -0400 Mike Becker 
> writes:
> > To Marsha and anyne else with this kind of attitude:
> > 
> > Sorry if I come on too strong and I have heard al those reasons 
> > listed below
> > but you either way off base or in need of some good old mental 
> > health
> > counseling plus a new career. Here are my top ten reasons for 
> > becoming a
> > tech and staying in the field from 1981 to the present.  Here 
> goes:
> > 
> > 
> > 10.  We do band together! Several state in the US require a 
> license 
> > to
> > practice Fla being one-come on histonetters help me out here-there 
> 
> > are
> > several more states which also require a license and others are 
> > working on
> > it.  Every state  that I am aware of has a state association you 
> can 
> > join
> > and you can prob join all of them if you wanted to support them 
> all 
> > plus
> > there is a wonderful NSH for the whole country which advocates, 
> > lobbies and
> > rallies us together as a profession and has an anuual meeting in a 
> 
> > new city
> > each year!  Join NSH and advocate for federal licensure, Marsha..  
> I 
> > didnt'
> > kow nurses, cytotech and med tech didn't like us-where have I been 
> 
> > living in
> > a closet-who cares what they think we are HISTOTECHNICIANS-we 
> should 
> > like
> > ourselves!!!!! Respect yourself and others will too.
> > >
> > > 10.We do not band together and demand the respect like the 
> nurses,
> > > cytotechs and Med. Techs do.
> > >
> > 
> > 9.  As well is should be-we need college educated at least 2 yrs 
> > associate
> > in the sciences or more if a tech ever wants to advance.
> > Histotechnologists, managers and supervisors need a Bachelor's to 
> > even think
> > about that level of work.  Wher else would a 2 yr ASS trrained 
> histo 
> > tech go
> > to advance up to a bs level position-it's a career ladder.  Even 
> if 
> > you
> > don't stay in histology a 4 year degree will get you further than 
> a 
> > 2 yr or
> > a HS. What century are you living in Marsha?? You can start with 
> as 
> > ASS.  It
> > is important. If someone wants histo bad enough go thru the 
> > channels. Pay
> > your dues and do it. HS level thinking will keep our profession 
> > immature as
> > many of they who practice are straight off the steet with no 
> science
> > training and no sense of themselves.
> > 
> > > 9. The 2 year ojt route/ HS diploma minimium will no longer be 
> > available
> > > after 2005.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 8.  I can't read this  item so I can't comment on this one-what 
> are 
> > you
> > saying here?
> > 
> > > 8.The education requirement that will take effect in 2005 is 
> just 
> > like 4
> > > SCH's shy of an AS (WHY?).
> > >
> > > 7.No matter what kind of education or no matter how good of a 
> tech 
> > you
> > > are, you will never be compensated appropriately.
> > >
> > 
> > 7.  Let me ask everyone who love this field are YOU IN IT FOR THE 
> > GREAT
> > MONEY??  HELL NO WE LIKE OUR WORK!!
> > 
> > > 6. Very few people in this world that has had any contact with 
> the
> > > medical world even know that we exist, much less know what we 
> do.
> > 
> > 6. WRONG!!  I work daily with the pateients in a Mohs surgery 
> > setting-they
> > know what I do and you can educate anyone about lab work-it's a 
> > given that
> > mostlab work is behind the scenes anyways-if you want to be "seen" 
> 
> > do
> > something else get out of lab bench work. It is a behind the 
> scenes 
> > job for
> > a lot of people and they still like it.
> > 
> > > 5. Apparently Monkeys can be trained to be histotechs as told by
> > > someone's professor. (I think he watched Planet of the Apes way 
> > too much
> > > and took it seriously.)
> > >
> > 5. BULL----!
> > 
> > 
> > > 4. HS grads can become histotechs with relative ease (so why the
> > > education requirement?).
> > >
> > 
> > 4. Same as above about education-ditto.
> > 
> > > 3. Kitchen help in the hospital can be trained in only one day 
> to 
> > cut and
> > > stain H&E slides.
> > >
> > 
> > 3. WRONG-it takes 6 months to a full year to become profiicient in 
> 
> > cutting
> > all types of tissue and to learn to trouble shoot all kinds of 
> > tissue
> > problems.
> > 
> > > 2. There is a shortage of histotechs and with no incentives 
> being
> > > offered, that means those that remain will be worked to death 
> > before help
> > > arrives.
> > 
> > > 2.  Proabably true unfortunately. So true.  But your attitude 
> isnt 
> > helping
> > the profession is it?
> > 
> > 
> > > and are you all ready  for this. Drum Roll Please! The No. 1 
> > reason for
> > > not letting your children grow up to be Histotechs.
> > 
> > > 1.  Says who?  the Histotech gods?  If you beleive all this carp 
> 
> > then it
> > will be a self fulfilling prophesy in you life. I for one love 
> this 
> > field,
> > love the work and love the doctors who dx.  If we don't staop 
> > thinking like
> > you e-mail and spreading this crap around we will go down the 
> tubes.
> > HISTOLOGY_love it or leave it Marsha.  You are not doing the field 
> 
> > any good
> > posting what you just did.  I respect and admire anyone who takes 
> a 
> > lowere
> > salary and does what they really love and is good at. How about 
> you? 
> >  Sales
> > is big for compensation I here. Go sell some stains!  Sorry to be 
> ao 
> > abrupt
> > but your e-mail infuriated me this morning.  Good Luck.
> > 
> > Sue Becker BS HTL(ASCP)
> > Albany, NY 12205
> > 
> > 
> 
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