RE: [Histonet] RE: Tissue fixation help

From:"Favara, Cynthia (NIH/NIAID)"

Oh you know sometimes the PI is not thinking clearly or at all and thinks
that frozen fixed whatever can be used for anything and the animal model
takes about 2 years for development of disease. Then they want everything
and don't want to work with frozen sections it goes on and on .........

Need to remember in the clinical world sometimes only a small biopsy and
need to confirm with FFPE sections - the gold standard!

Just a few - sorry for the snippy attitude it has been a day - 


Cynthia Favara
903 South 4th Street
Hamilton, MT 59840

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-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Scouten [] 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:54 PM
To: Patsy Ruegg; C.M. van der Loos;
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Tissue fixation help

Just very curious.  Why would anybody paraffin embed after the tissue
had already been frozen? Either way gets it hard enough to cut, which is
the purpose of both procedures.

Charles W.  Scouten, Ph.D. 
5918 Evergreen Blvd. 
St. Louis, MO 63134 
Ph: 314 522 0300 x 342
FAX  314 522 0377 

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Patsy
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 2:46 PM
To: 'C.M. van der Loos';
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Tissue fixation help

I too have thawed tissue in rt formalin and then processed and embedded
in paraffin which good morphology and IHC results (haven't tried with
antibodies to phosphorylated sites but other IHC has been fine, it all
depends on if the samples was properly frozen in the first place)  I
tried to do this with some heart tissue which had just been placed in a
-80dc freezer with out snap freezing in OCT and it was awful, but the
frozen section was bad as well.

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
IHCtech, LLC
Fitzsimmons BioScience Park
12635 Montview Blvd. Suite 216
Aurora, CO 80010
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-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of C.M. van
der Loos
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 11:43 PM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Tissue fixation help


   Long  time  ago  we thawed a  frozen  tissue  sample directly in
   temp.)  NBF  (24-48 hs). Morphology was kept surprisingly well.
   at that time phosphorylated antibodies were not even existant....

   Chris van der Loos, PhD
   Dept. of Pathology
   Academic Medical Center M2-230
   Meibergdreef 9
   NL-1105 AZ Amsterdam
   The Netherlands

   phone:  +31 20 5665631

   Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:25:24 -0400
   From: Angela McNabola 
   Subject: [Histonet] Tissue fixation help
   To: [1]
   Good Morning,
   Does  anybody  on  the histonet have any experience with taking
   that has
   been snap frozen in minus 80, and then "thawed" out and formalin
   paraffin embedded?
   I  won't  get into the reasons why we have to do this, but does
   have a
   protocol  (or just slowly thaw it out and fix it??).  How did your
   turn out,
   especially  when  using  phosphorlyated  antibodies?  Did you get
   morphology of
   your tissue?
   thanks in advance!
   Angela McNabola, MS HT(ASCP)SLS, QIHC
   Bayer Healthcare
   400 Morgan Lane
   West Haven, CT 06516


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