RE: [Histonet] Dumbing down the practical???

From:"Poteete, Jacquie A."

WASTE high snow!  What a horrible experience!

Jacquie Poteete MT(ASCP)QIHC
Lead Technologist, IHC Lab
Saint Francis Hospital
Tulsa, OK

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Joe Nocito []
> Sent:	Friday, November 05, 2004 11:10 AM
> Subject:	RE: [Histonet] Dumbing down the practical???
> I can do one better.
> Two techs came through my lab during a clinical rotation. They were so
> good
> that I hired them. Both took their practical at the same time using the
> same
> tissue from the same autopsy, used the same processor, microtome and
> stainer. I reviewed all their slides as did my medical director. One
> passed,
> one didn't. When I called ASCP to inquire how this could happen, I was
> told
> it would be $100 to have the slides reviewed. I told this person that I
> was
> the supervisor, not the applicant and I wanted to know how this could
> happen.
> 	I put my name in to become a reviewer, but never received a yes or
> no.
> Do I have some issues with ASCP, you bet. When my techs told me that they
> had to turn in only 9 slides, I was appalled. So I told the same old story
> "When I went to school, I had to walk 5 miles in waste high snow. When I
> did
> my HT, I had to use paraffin molds, process by hand and use a steel
> knife."
> Their response was "was that before cell phones and play stations?" They
> remember seeing a picture of a steel knife in a book once. Geez, am I
> getting old or what?
> Joe "The Toe" Nocito, BS, HT(ASCP) QIHC
> Histology Manager
> Pathology Reference Lab
> San Antonio, TX
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> []On Behalf Of TERRI
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:52 PM
> To:
> Subject: [Histonet] Dumbing down the practical???
> I have a question for all those on the list who have taken the HT
> practical.
>   Why do you think that the practical exam does not cover the material
> that
> it used to?  Having taken mine in 1981, and then, later as a supervisor,
> having trained 8 OJT's to sucessful completion of their certification, I
> have observed that the practical is not near the test that it used to be.
> There is no CNS tissue, no decalcified tissue, no submission of both a
> special stain and a H&E from the same block. Just one slide, one block,
> one
> stain.  Also how is the effect of fully automated special stainers vs
> prepared kits vs "homemade" solutions being taken into account?  There
> isn't
> even an informational question pertaining to this so that the ASCP could
> begin to see the impact of the technology in our HT learning process?
> Will
> the technician that can successfully load an autostainer be as effective
> in
> troubleshooting a stain as one who has learned every step by hand? Will it
> even be necessary in the future of Histology?  Just curious to hear some
> opinions - Terri
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