RE: [Histonet] embedding like specimens sequentially

From:"Morken, Tim - Labvision"



That's what QA programs are for.


The problem is that even if you can document one or more mistakes you can't really say for sure if it is because of sequential grossing of like specimens unless you have data showing that. It could just be coincidental. You would have to show that such mistakes happen predominately when like specimens are grossed sequentially.


If you have a QA program you can make this potential problem part of that as a QA monitor in order to document the problem. Followup on all mis-identification mistakes (and be sure to document those that are caught in the lab - not just those that reach a pathologist) and determine their place in the grossing order (is that possible with your methods?). Then follow trends of mistakes and try to assign the trend to specific practices. That is the only way to show the magnitude of any problem.



Tim Morken

Lab Vision / NeoMarkers


-----Original Message-----
From: Tague, Curtis []
Wednesday, November 19, 2003 11:40 AM
To: Tapper, Sheila
Cc: Histonet (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [Histonet] embedding like specimens sequentially


I'd have your pathologist put the hammer down. He or she would no doubt be happy to see you're desire to improve quality control and reduce the chance any mix up that could lead to legal problems. Explain to them the risks and I'm sure they'll back you.



-----Original Message-----
From: []On Behalf Of Tapper, Sheila
Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:21
Subject: [Histonet] embedding like specimens sequentially

Can anyone give me a literature reference that delineates the reasons and process for embedding non-like specimens sequentially?  We are trying to address our PA's ordering cervical biopsies followed by endocervical curettage biopsies, and breast masses followed by breast core biopsies, etc..  The only thing that seems to drive change is documented literature, not histotechs telling them that this is poor practice, and potential a legal problem.  I don't need case studies - WE all know them - I need hard and fast rules. 


Thank you in advance!


Sheila Tapper HT(ASCP)

St. Luke's Hospital



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