I've been following this discussion with interest as it's all so
different here, we know our place. The master servant relationship is alive
and well in the UK.
Ian.
Dr. Ian Montgomery,
Histotechnology,
I.B.L.S. Support Unit,
Thomson Building,
University of Glasgow,
Glasgow,
G12 8QQ.
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From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Marshall
Terry Dr,Consultant Histopathologist
Sent: 21 May 2008 15:17
To: Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED); Blazek, Linda;
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] histotech pay/respect
Gee, the number of times I would liked to have done that:-)
Terry
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From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bartlett,
Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED)
Sent: 21 May 2008 15:03
To: Blazek, Linda; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] histotech pay/respect
I have to say that the majority of pathologists I have worked with over the
years have treated me with respect but not all. And the ones that did not
treat me respectfully did not treat any of the laboratorians with respect.
So I can't say respect is always earned. There are often a few bad eggs in
the mix. I can remember as a student (back in the day) one of the
pathologists came into the lab with a tray of H&E's and shouted, "Who cut
this sh**?!" Then he threw the tray on the floor and broke all of the
slides. Now I am sure that type of behavior would never be allowed today.
But honestly, over the many years I have been in histology I can say only 2
have been truly disrespectful.
Jeanine Bartlett
Infectious Diseases Pathology Branch
(404) 639-3590
jeanine.bartlett@cdc.hhs.gov
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From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Blazek,
Linda
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:26 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] histotech pay/respect
Sorry René but I don't think having worked with 12 different pathologists
and being treated with respect by ALL of them is a matter of good luck.
Linda Blazek HT (ASCP)
Manager/Supervisor
GI Pathology of Dayton
7415 Brandt Pike
Huber Heights, OH 45424
Phone: (937) 293-4424 ext 7118
Email: lblazek@digestivespecialists.com
________________________________
From: Rene J Buesa [mailto:rjbuesa@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:09 AM
To: Blazek, Linda; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] histotech pay/respect
Having a good experience with a pathologist (or even with several) is a sign
of "good luck", like ending with a good spouse.
We histotech should not be subjected to the "good (or bad) whims of
pathologists", it should be a RIGHT to earn decent salaries and be treated
with respect.
I am sure that during slavery times, there were bad and "not so bad"
plantation owners!
René J.
"Blazek, Linda" wrote:
Patti and all,
Horary Patti. I was just sitting here getting ready to post my email
when you posted yours. I was beginning to think I was the only one
here
that has had a very positive experience as a histotech.
I've been watching this topic for a long time now and wonder where
I've
been. I've been a histotech since the early 70's. The pathologist I
worked for in the early 80's wanted to know why I never took my
registry
when I finished school. I guess a baby got in the way and no one
really
required it. He pushed and encouraged me to take my registry. He was
so
supportive and helpful to someone that waited 9 years to sit for the
exam that it was amazing. I did receive a healthy raise when I
passed.
I have never in all these years worked for a pathologist that wasn't
respectful and included me as a part of a team. I have had a bit of
"red-headed stepchild" reactions from MTs but that never bothered me
since none of them had a clue as to what a histotech did. When they
removed the histology rotation from the MT training in the early
70's
they didn't have any exposure to our world.
Linda
Linda Blazek HT (ASCP)
Manager/Supervisor
GI Pathology of Dayton
7415 Brandt Pike
Huber Heights, OH 45424
Phone: (937) 293-4424 ext 7118
Email: lblazek@digestivespecialists.com
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From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Dawson,
Glen
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:45 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] histotech pay/respect
Joelle,
Best pathologist quote that I've ever heard myself:
"Let's face it, a trained monkey can cut blocks."
This was referring to trying to staff his personal research lab and
was
said with all seriousness. Needless to say, this pathologist and I
didn't get along well at all. Unfortunately, too many share these
sentiments and don't have a clue that a histotech tends to do a bit
more
than "cut blocks".
Sort of makes you wonder why any of us bothers with getting
certified or
with obtaining necessary CEU's to stay that way.
Hang in There,
Glen Dawson BS, HT & QIHC
IHC Manager
Milwaukee, WI
-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of
joelle
weaver
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:06 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] histotech pay/respect
In response to several postings regarding pay and respect- I have
been
feeling somewhat better to read that others are disheartened by the
lack
of respect for the effort and time that it can take to become a
certified, experienced histotech. The pay doesn't really bother me
as
much as the attitude that I encounter on a daily basis that "anyone"
can
do histology and that it is to quote "no big deal" to get certified.
I
have to concur that in my experience, histology managers do not seem
to
value or even recognize the skills and time it takes to perfect this
trade.I know for me, getting an HTL was quite a burden at times. I
had
extra studies for sure. And, back in that day, the ASCP slide
practical
was no picnic. At my own hospital, this attitude is epitomized by
the
fact that routinely non-certifed, non-histology people are both
hired
and promoted. I have never seen anyone with a histology background
given
any sort of professional respect like that given freely to the MT
personnel that work there. They do not even recgonize an HTL as a
certification. They only give you a small increase for being
certified
at all (HT). At particularly bad moments, this had made me want to
leave
the field as well. So, I can relate very easily to everyone else's
sentiments. This hospital has been an especially bad example of the
"warm body" syndrome. It is almost crippling in terms of the quality
of
the work and TAT. The inferior service and poor quality produced
only
serves to reinforce the negative concept- it is indeed a vicious
cycle!
At least (all of us) are not alone!
Joelle
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