have you tried talking to Civilian Personnel? I had a GS7 who was a
force-hire because another base closed due to BRAC. You talk about a
nightmare! Freddy Kruger had nothing on this woman. Civilian Personnel was a
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas D Deltour"
To: "'Jackie M O'Connor'" ; "'Coco'"
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Processing
>I agree with Jackie on this Heather. Having worked in an exact environment
> that you work in (A Navy Hospital) I can tell you that the military and
> GS have a totally different mindset than the "real world". I did it for 14
> years (I won't tell you which side). Just face up to it because you will
> always have some sort of a military vs. GS conflict. You can try to rattle
> the military paths cage but to him you will be "the civilian" and if you
> make too many waves then you will be a "trouble making civilian".
> It sounds like you do not have a very supportive GS chain at your
> Most likely your GS boss is on the clinical side and considers the AP side
> the "stepchild" of the lab. Maybe he/she lacks the backbone to support
> It is all about getting through another day without any bother for most.
> As for the GS PD... I bet you and your worker have a little sentence at
> end of it that reads "All other duties assigned", or something like it.
> The GS pay system is below standard and the benefits are not what they
> to be. Is it really worth the headache?
> No offense to the GS workers out there. I appreciate your tolerance.
> Douglas D. Deltour HT(ASCP)
> Histology Manager
> Professional Pathology Services, PC
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> Heather -
> If you're not active duty, why don't you get out of that job? Seems like
> you've been struggling a long time there - -maybe that job just isn't the
> right fit.
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> 05/15/2007 06:13 PM
> [Histonet] Processing
> Well anybody who is a GS, if you know a friend of a friend, they will
> you a job. I agree military believe that civilians are enlisted people,
> think that you can be cross trained in every department, like a corpsman.
> Unfortunately, that is why we have work pd's. Civilian vs. military is not
> great interface. A lot of problems are not dealt with until they directly
> affect that person. Anyways, to the person who said, "report it to CAP".
> What will they do? At this point, I wish it was easy to say that this
> could label slides. The accessioning process after 60 days is a nightmare.
> I've repeated, visually shown, written things down and this lady is still
> struggling. But for those who are not GS. A GS 7 can not train a GS 7, nor
> the secretary at GS 5, can not train a GS 7. The work PD does not state
> So right now there is a major violation going on. This lady just happened
> want a GS job so badly, she might have sold her soul to the devil to get
> and now she is paying dearly. So she is on a year probation, and I'm
> a rock and a hard place because she is not capable of performing the job.
> have already rattled the pathologists cage, and I am getting ignored. I'm
> just as guilty of standing by and doing nothing when patient care is being
> compromised and when there is a problem, military come after the civilian
> and pin the blame on you. That is why the BS is unreal and very very
> political. I am debating whether to tell the CO. What should I do? That is
> trickle down effect and there will be retaliation. Anybody have any ideas
> what I should do? Let it go, or go to the top and than commanders will
> some serious heat. Regardless oh how this situation is dealt with the
> nending is not going to be nice. I don't want this woman to lose her job
> than again she is incompetent. All opinions appreciated.
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