Re: [Histonet] Ventana Benchmark

From:"Joe Nocito"

Bravo! Gudrun, Bravo!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gudrun Lang" 
To: "Histonetliste (Histonetliste)" 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:58 AM
Subject: AW: [Histonet] Ventana Benchmark

First you are fascinated by the wonderful quality, go-away-system, easy to
handle technique, fast results. Doctors see constant quality, less staff
needed and therefore decrease of costs (?). And then, they want a special
antibody to work - hmm. And then, the bill comes in. And now the complains
go on. The technician, who is soo expensive, has to look for ways to make
the system cheaper. Each sticker on the slides is counted, and each drop of
antibody is saved. And there hangs the damokles-sword above our heads, that
the next job-position will be shortened. "Make it cheaper - or your job is
lost". It would have been better to evaluate the follow-costs before
complaining, yes?
I don't like the dependence on a single company - but I like the good

Gudrun Lang

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[] Im Auftrag von Joe Nocito
Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Mai 2006 00:59
An: Malcolm McCallum; Scott A. Ely;
Betreff: Re: [Histonet] Ventant Benchmark

I'm not saying do it manually. I'm saying that there are less expensive ways
to perform immunos than using Ventana's high cost reagents.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Malcolm McCallum" 
To: "Joe Nocito" ; "Scott A. Ely"
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Ventant Benchmark

Undoubtedly the cost and maintenance of automation is cheaper than the cost
of additional employees salaries and benefits accompanied by associated
duplication of manual systems.  Additionally, equipment is depreciable,
whereas human resources are a cost.


Malcolm L. McCallum
Assistant Professor
Department of Biological Sciences
Texas A&M University Texarkana
2600 Robison Rd.
Texarkana, TX 75501
O: 1-903-223-3134
H: 1-903-791-3843


From: on behalf of Joe Nocito
Sent: Sat 5/27/2006 8:29 AM
To: Scott A. Ely;
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventant Benchmark

flaming time
How come every one talks about the reliability and walk away technology, but
no one ever talks about the price of running these machines? Shouldn't cost
be a factor also?
I've been in budget meetings all week. The only thing I heard was how
expensive it is to run immunos. Yeah, we have two XTs, what do you expect?

The opinions stated here are that of the author only and does not  express
the opinions of his employer, lawyers, siblings, significant others and
their lawyers.

Oh, by the way, I told the same thing to my Ventana Rep on Friday. He knows,
so y'all don't need to call my CEO. Y'all know who you are.

Let the flaming begin.

Histology Manager
Pathology Reference Lab
San Antonio, TX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott A. Ely" 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:58 AM
Subject: [Histonet] Ventant Benchmark

> We are considering buying some new equipment.  I would like to know who
> uses the Ventana Benchmark
> immunostainer or other immunostainers and what you like and don't like
> about it.
> Scott Ely, MD MPH
> Section of Hematopathology
> Department of Pathology
> Weill Medical College of Cornell University
> New York Presbyterian Hospital
> 525 E. 68th Street
> New York, NY 10021
> PH:  212-746-2442
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