Don - You are too young to be so wise. 

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> From: 	D. Hammer[SMTP:hammerd@u.washington.edu]
> Sent: 	Wednesday, March 10, 1999 7:29 AM
> To: 	Histonet
> Subject: 	Re: manual discussion
> 
> Hi Histonetters,
> 
> While the way the "Copyright Laws" discussion thread has evolved, the
> information derived seems to be good and perhaps valuable to many.
> (positive often comes out of a negative beginning) :)
> 
> Mark, in the eyes of several, it seems, posted a thought to consider but
> the wording shed some bad light on him and his company.  I wonder if it
> had been posted by a person not associated with a company if it would be
> met by the same reaction.  A later post explained his intention and that
> he offered to provide the manual, but it appears this either was not seen,
> or believed nor has it had much impact on the continued vendor bashing. :(
> 
> In Mark's behalf, I have seen quite a few posts by him providing
> technical information but one possible indiscretion apparently wipes that
> all away. I would venture that we will not be privey to his knowledge, as
> with several others who have been bashed in some way on here and no longer
> post information. :(
> 
> When I see "vendor bashing" on here I cringe because I think back over the
> years to all the support the companies have and continue to provide to our
> proffession.  While they derive benefits as well, exhibit booths at state,
> regional and national meetings make the meetings financially possible, ads
> in newsletters sustain the costs of them, lectures and workshops by their
> employees keep costs down for society meetings, hospitality functions
> provide a time to exchange technical expertise as well as recover from a
> hard day in sessions, new products, many suggested by the user, help us to
> keep up with efficency improvements, not to mention the expense accounts
> that help some convention attendees keep the costs of meals down. :)
> These company's have also provided a career path for many former lab
> employees, and I believe Mark is one.  Oh, did I mention the "Histonet
> Buttons" and "get togethers"?  *grin*
> 
> The NSH (National Society for Histotechnology) may still be trying to get
> off the ground if it were not for those early efforts of vendor support.
> 
> In summary, as I proofread the above, I'm suggesting we value our own a
> bit more. 
> 
> Thanks for reading,
> Don
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> 
> On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 rkline@emindustries.com wrote:
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> > Noi,
> > 
> > There is such a thing as sample accounts.  Here at EM Science all
> product
> > managers and sales reps have them.  In light of the first reply and all
> the
> > negativity from it,  I would think Shandon would want to redeem
> themselves
> > and send you a no charge manual on one of these types of accounts.
> > 
> > A $167.00 is nothing compared to the lost business and the chance to do
> > good business.
> > 
> > Rande Kline HT (ASCP)
> > Technical Services
> > EM Science
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> > NTT@shcc.org on 03/09/99 06:50:24 PM
> > 
> > To:   histonet@pathology.swmed.edu
> > cc:
> > Subject:  manual
> > 
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> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > I placed the inquiry because someone has always been able to help me by
> > sharing
> >  useful information on the histonet.  If I offended anyone because I
> might
> > have
> > suggested something illegal, I didn't mean too.  When I was in college,
> we
> > had
> > many debates about situations like this and many of you touched upon the
> > same
> > points as we did--particularily copyright laws.  Our resolution was that
> we
> > were using it for educational purposes and nothing more.  This was and
> is
> > my
> > intention when I first posted the message.
> > 
> > Again, thanks to everyone who responded.  To all those that I pissed
> off,
> > didn't mean to.  And as always, everyone is very helpful.
> > 
> > Noi
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