Re: [Histonet] Training Med Techs - some candid comments
Dear Mr. Kirby,
I do not usually get involved in the mu= d slinging on the histonet,
but your response has changed that. Your = comments are unfair to
Becky and to all Histotechs. Becky was not ins= ulting Med Techs. My
interpretation is that she is frustrated with Hi= stotechs being
overlooked for management positions in favor of Med Techs.&n= bsp; Why
train a Med Tech with no histology experience if you have a very c apable Histotech available? She did not mean to imply that
Histotechn= ology is a career whereas Medical Technology is not. She
meant that o= urs is a career and therefore not that simple to simple
train somebody on t= he spot to manage that area. (Becky, please
correct me if I am wrong.= )
As a Med Tech, I have worked in all areas of = the laboratory, using
those fancy biochemistry and hematology analyzers, as= well as cross
matching blood for an ER patient. I know what stress i= s. I also
work in histology where things can also go wrong and depend= ing on
the laboratory the turn-around-time expectations can be unreasonable . What we do in Histology can also impact a patient's health. A lthough the Pathologist makes the diagnosis, it is made on slides that
we h= ave prepared. Any errors on our part can definitely cause
grievous pr= oblems for the patient. Please don't feel special about
your ability = to cause the death of a patient. There are a lot of
hands throughout = a patient's treatment that can claim credit for it.
<= DIV>Are you also aware that many histotechs do take call? The
gruelin= g circumstances that you describe are not unique to Med
Techs. Many h= istotechs also have advanced degrees.
There are many of us wh= o do not feel as you do that "it was
considered a boring "dead end division"= ". Most of us are in the
field because we truly enjoy wh= at we do. We sure don't do it for
the respect we get from people like= you!
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Fro= m: "Mike Kirby"
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Date: 03/22/2006 05:57AM
Subject: [Histonet]= Training Med Techs - some candid comments
Dear Ms Orr.
You ma= y not have wanted a fight on your hands but now you've got
Cli= mbs on soapbox and starts tirade!
Your comment " Training a MT to be= a Histo Tech is like trying to
train a policeman to be a fireman" rather s= ticks in the craw, and
I would like to follow with a counter
comment, "C= an a Histo Tech be trained to be a fireman?" as anyone
can be shown how to = connect a hose to a hydrant and point it at
Granted, His= topatholgy is very much a "hands on" profession,
requiring fine manual dext= erity and concentration, but it's no
better than operating a high output Bi= ochemistry/ Haematology
analyser or cross-matching a pint of blood, where a= wrong result
can kill a patient. Plus you operate under a fraction of the stress we are subjected to - try working for a full day, and then
doi= ng another 13 hours of call out duty, and then you are
expected to report f= or normal duty next day!
It's a gross insult to insinuate that ours = is a "job" while yours
is a "career".
As students, we spent 5 - 6 mo= nths working in every division that
was available in the lab - Chempath, Ha= em, Parasitology, Micro,
Cyto, Immunology, Human genetics, blood transfusio= n, and yes,
even Histopath. When we passed our finals, we were allowed to c hoose which discipline we wanted to further our careers, and each
year, wit= hout fail, the majority would choose anything but
Histopath, as it was cons= idered a boring "dead end division"
(Yes, pun intended).
As fo= r management positions, if you can run a Chempath or Micro
Dept, then you c= an run a Histopath Dept, as the same managerial
systems apply, regardless o= f the discipline, it's just the
practical applications of the work in hand = that differ.
Histopathology is just one of the services in the medi= cal world,
you don't walk on water, and neither do we. As far as I am conce rned, once trained as a general Med Tech, you can be trained in
virtually a= ny other discipline, unless you are like "two left
thumbs" me, who after 35= years on the bench, still cannot cut a
half decent section or make a passa= ble blood smear. (But I am
good as a manager!)
End of tirade - climb= s off soapbox, puts on helmet, and climbs
into bunker, to await the verbal = barrage that's about to be
Fr= om: histo= email@example.com
[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org= thwestern.edu] On Behalf
Of Orr, Rebecca
Sent: 17 March 2006 17:04
To= : histonet= @lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Cc: &n= bsp; Delk, Linda
Subject: [Histonet] Training Med Techs
H= ello everyone.
I would appreciate any feedback from those of you who may= have had
to train MT's (ASCP) to work in Histology.
They would be train= ed as histo techs with the intent to promote
them into Anatomic Patho= logy (Histology) management positions.
Candid comments welcome, especial= ly from MT's who now work in
To me it would be like trying to= train a policeman to be a
fireman, it's a career, not a job, right?
We see a HT shortage in the Chicago area, but I am unsure how to
addre= ss this.
Degreed individuals have proven critical thinkin= g skills via a
traditional education pathway, so I see the advantages, but = to
ignore very capable HT managers with proven management and
organizationa= l skills via non traditional pathways is becoming
an issue with me.I mean it's not like Non degreed HT's are stooopid
<= BR>Thank you
Becky Orr CLA,HT(ASCP)
Eva= nston Northwestern Healthcare
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