Re: [Histonet] gravity for levity

From:Victor Tobias


You can have my support. In the early days of my Histology career I was 
proud to pay my dues and get my stickers, looked pretty impressive on 
the wall. All this time I never attended any sort of ASCP meeting 
because they offerred nothing that was related to my working position. 
When I realized that paying my dues had nothing to do with maintaining 
my HT(ASCP) and I think they stopped sending me stickers also, I stopped 
renewing. I don't recall how many years it has been but I still get a 
renewal form from time to time. Maybe they would take notice if everyone 
boycotted and didn't renew their membership.

I lived in San Antonio for 5 months in the early 70's while stationed at 
Fort Sam Houston. I wasn't crazy about the weather, but enjoyed the town 
and people.


Joe Nocito wrote:

>Sorry Glen, I have to disagree,
>	it gets to a point when someone has to stand up to this totalitarian state.
>I'll do it, but I need a guarantee that I'll have some support. They can
>mess with as much as they want, but it wouldn't be wise to get this Italian
>backed into a corner.
>	So, how do y'all think my anger and stress management classes are going?
>-----Original Message-----
>[]On Behalf Of Dawson,
>Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:35 AM
>Subject: RE: [Histonet] gravity for levity
>My dealings with the ASCP are much like my dealings with police officers,
>postal carriers, and people cooking my food.  Complaints to the latter 3 can
>result in tickets, late bill payments, and large amounts of spit in your
>food (if you are lucky).  Complaints with the first can result in
>non-certification or non-renewal of certifications/qualifications so it is
>best to sacrifice a chicken at the ASCP alter and keep your head down since
>their approval/disapproval appears to be about as arbitrary as the direction
>of the wind.  Todays lesson: don't mess with people/entities that can mess
>with you on a grand scale.
>Glen Dawson
>-----Original Message-----
>From: []
>Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:24 PM
>Subject: RE: [Histonet] gravity for levity
>Greetings to all,
>Why is it that when the ASCP is mentioned in the subject matter, questions
>die quickly on the vine?  Speaking of the ASCP is like talking with the
>of Oz; you know, "ignore the man behind the curtain."
>The ASCP is the governing body of our livelihood.  How they wield the power
>of their monopoly has effects on each and every one of us.  Joe has raised
>questions many times about whether they make decisions before contemplating
>effects.  I don't think it is a minor oversight that they would place
>for certification that defies the geography of available resources.
>Previous posts have indicated serious inconsistencies with the certification
>process.  There seems to be no verifiable insight into the actual workings
>this organization.  I find this lack of transparency and accountability
>troubling.  The ASCP must have something more to offer than a trial by fire.
>bothers me as well as others that we don't know how they make their
>decisions and
>now it has gone farther as to why they make these decisions.  I would like
>see our profession grow and get the respect it deserves but I think that
>would be by helping each and every one of us; allowing all the boats to rise
>the tide.
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Victor Tobias
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University of Washington Medical Center
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