RE: [Histonet] gravity for levity

From:"Joe Nocito"

Sorry Glen, I have to disagree,
	it gets to a point when someone has to stand up to this totalitarian state.
I'll do it, but I need a guarantee that I'll have some support. They can
mess with as much as they want, but it wouldn't be wise to get this Italian
backed into a corner.
	So, how do y'all think my anger and stress management classes are going?


-----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of Dawson,
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:35 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] gravity for levity


My dealings with the ASCP are much like my dealings with police officers,
postal carriers, and people cooking my food.  Complaints to the latter 3 can
result in tickets, late bill payments, and large amounts of spit in your
food (if you are lucky).  Complaints with the first can result in
non-certification or non-renewal of certifications/qualifications so it is
best to sacrifice a chicken at the ASCP alter and keep your head down since
their approval/disapproval appears to be about as arbitrary as the direction
of the wind.  Todays lesson: don't mess with people/entities that can mess
with you on a grand scale.

Glen Dawson

-----Original Message-----
From: []
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] gravity for levity

Greetings to all,

Why is it that when the ASCP is mentioned in the subject matter, questions
die quickly on the vine?  Speaking of the ASCP is like talking with the
of Oz; you know, "ignore the man behind the curtain."

The ASCP is the governing body of our livelihood.  How they wield the power
of their monopoly has effects on each and every one of us.  Joe has raised
questions many times about whether they make decisions before contemplating
effects.  I don't think it is a minor oversight that they would place
for certification that defies the geography of available resources.

Previous posts have indicated serious inconsistencies with the certification

process.  There seems to be no verifiable insight into the actual workings
this organization.  I find this lack of transparency and accountability
troubling.  The ASCP must have something more to offer than a trial by fire.
bothers me as well as others that we don't know how they make their
decisions and
now it has gone farther as to why they make these decisions.  I would like
see our profession grow and get the respect it deserves but I think that
would be by helping each and every one of us; allowing all the boats to rise
the tide.

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