I agree.  And they still haven't figured out a way to account for those who
"disappear" during the day, take long breaks and even longer lunches!

-----Original Message-----
From: Hermina Borgerink [mailto:hborgeri@wfubmc.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 12:01 PM
To: histonet@pathology.swmed.edu
Subject: FW: time clocks




-----Original Message-----
From: Hermina Borgerink
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:41 AM
To: 'Cheryl Powell'; histonet@pathology.swmed.edu
Subject: RE: time clocks


We have a computerized Kronos system, whereby we log in and out at our own
PC.  We have 6-minute increments with a 3-minute window.  If you are
supposed to be at work at 8:00 am and you log in at 8:03 am, your time will
be counted as of 8:00 am.  However, if you log in at 8:04, your time will
start as of 8:06 am.  Prior to this system, we had a Kronos swipe-in system
which was installed near the building's entrance, giving us a few minutes of
paid time while we made our way to the lab.  Now it takes me 4 minutes to
log on from my desk to the Kronos web site, which is dead time.  When we
first started recording our working hours this way, I would try to do
something so as to not just "sit there", but then I would inevitably get
caught up in what I was doing and forget to log in until later, meaning I
would have to saty longer to make up for the lost time if I wanted credit
for an 8-hour day.  So, now I sit at my desk for 4 minutes each morning!
The upside is that we have instant access to hours worked as well as
acrued/used vacation and sick time.  I don't think there is any system that
will rid the work place of people who want to cheat on time worked.  Whether
you use a time sheet, which is based on an honor system and which was our
means of keeping track of time worked for many years, or whether you use a
swipe-in system which we also used for many a year, and now a PC based
system, slackers will find a way.
Hermina

Hermina Borgerink, BA, HT(ASCP)HTL, IHQ
Wake Forest University School of Medicine
Department of Pathology
Winston-Salem, NC 27127

-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl Powell [mailto:cherylhisto@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:20 AM
To: histonet@pathology.swmed.edu
Subject: time clocks


Hi Histonetters!!  I have a few quick questions related to the way your
place of employment keeps track of your hourly personnal.  Do your techs
(HT/HTL/MTL/MT/CT/etc) punch a time clock or swipe a badge- whatever like
that?  If so, what are the rules for what constitutes a tardy?  For example:
A tech is scheduled at 6:30am.  Is 6:31 a tardy? 6:35? 6:40?   And my other
question is who descides if someone's tardiness is in need of discipline and
is that discipline discretionary (based on circumstances- weather,
pregnancy, illness) or straight accross the board for everyone?  Thank you
for your responses :)



Cheryl Ann Powell B.S., HTL(ASCP)
Botsford General Hospital
Farmington Hills, MI USA



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