-----Original Message-----
From: Hermina Borgerink
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:41 AM
To: 'Cheryl Powell'; histonet@pathology.swmed.edu
Subject: RE: time clocks


We have a computerized Kronos system, whereby we log in and out at our own PC.  We have 6-minute increments with a 3-minute window.  If you are supposed to be at work at 8:00 am and you log in at 8:03 am, your time will be counted as of 8:00 am.  However, if you log in at 8:04, your time will start as of 8:06 am.  Prior to this system, we had a Kronos swipe-in system which was installed near the building's entrance, giving us a few minutes of paid time while we made our way to the lab.  Now it takes me 4 minutes to log on from my desk to the Kronos web site, which is dead time.  When we first started recording our working hours this way, I would try to do something so as to not just "sit there", but then I would inevitably get caught up in what I was doing and forget to log in until later, meaning I would have to saty longer to make up for the lost time if I wanted credit for an 8-hour day.  So, now I sit at my desk for 4 minutes each morning!  The upside is that we have instant access to hours worked as well as acrued/used vacation and sick time.  I don't think there is any system that will rid the work place of people who want to cheat on time worked.  Whether you use a time sheet, which is based on an honor system and which was our means of keeping track of time worked for many years, or whether you use a swipe-in system which we also used for many a year, and now a PC based system, slackers will find a way.
Hermina

Hermina Borgerink, BA, HT(ASCP)HTL, IHQ
Wake Forest University School of Medicine
Department of Pathology
Winston-Salem, NC 27127

-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl Powell [mailto:cherylhisto@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:20 AM
To: histonet@pathology.swmed.edu
Subject: time clocks


Hi Histonetters!!  I have a few quick questions related to the way your place of employment keeps track of your hourly personnal.  Do your techs (HT/HTL/MTL/MT/CT/etc) punch a time clock or swipe a badge- whatever like that?  If so, what are the rules for what constitutes a tardy?  For example: A tech is scheduled at 6:30am.  Is 6:31 a tardy? 6:35? 6:40?   And my other question is who descides if someone's tardiness is in need of discipline and is that discipline discretionary (based on circumstances- weather, pregnancy, illness) or straight accross the board for everyone?  Thank you for your responses :)



Cheryl Ann Powell B.S., HTL(ASCP)
Botsford General Hospital
Farmington Hills, MI USA



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