Carrie,

You are right.  This dispute between Mike & I will remain off-list.

Apologies,

Glen

-----Original Message-----
From: Carrie Kyle-Byrne [mailto:ckbyrne@exelixis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:35 PM
To: Dawson, Glen; mavery@pcllab.com
Cc: 'HistoNet@Pathology.swmed.edu'
Subject: Re: motivation


Gentlemen (please don't make me regret using this term),
Since this has been brought into the arena of the list, I feel the need to
respond.
First....Mike, I personally wouldn't want to interview with you if you are
willing to make such broad judgements about someone from reading rather
sterile email postings.  Second.....I agree with Glen (at least on this
point), that Mike's remarks and name-calling were inappropriate (but at
least he had the good sense to initially send them off-list).
Third.....Glen, did this really need to be dragged into the forum of the
entire list?  Personally, I simply would have ignored Mike's remarks,
deeming them unworthy of a response.  However, I do recognize your right to
respond to his remarks as you see fit.
Let's not let this get ugly......please.......
Carrie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dawson, Glen" 
To: "Mike Avery" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: motivation


> Mike,
>
> If you would like to discuss things further outside the work environment
(in
> person preferably), please let me know.  Also, re-read my post below and
> think about just how inappropriate your comments are.
>
> Glen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Avery [mailto:mavery@PCLLAB.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:43 PM
> To: Dawson, Glen
> Subject: Re: motivation
>
>
> Glen,
>        Try as I may to ignore your comments, I had to respond to your
latest
> contribution to this server.  Glen the world doesn't revolve around you
and
> I am sure that prior to your hiring, your company did fine without you.
One
> only needs to read between the lines you wrote to know what you are about.
> You only further solidify yourself as the resident  " cry baby" of the
> histonet and your employer. I for one wouldn't hire you if I had multiple
> openings in my laboratory. I wonder what your employer would say about
your
> loyalty and commitment?
>
>                  mla
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dawson, Glen" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:33 PM
> Subject: RE: motivation
>
>
> > You are a victim of bad timing.  Now is not a good time to be a
Histology
> > Supervisor and it will only get worse.  An overworked, underpaid,
> > underappreciated worker will always be more difficult to motivate.  If
> your
> > situation is like this, your in for long, difficult journey.  If you are
> > fully staffed, your techs are paid well, and they are shown some respect
> now
> > and then, fire one of them and I'll come work for you.  I believe that
in
> > the next 5 to ten years, over half of our staff will retire and we'll be
> in
> > a world of hurt.
> >
> > Glen Dawson
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: GREYTRUNK@aol.com [mailto:GREYTRUNK@aol.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:15 PM
> > To: histonet@pathology.swmed.edu
> > Subject: motivation
> >
> >
> > I need help!!!
> >
> > I have been a Supervisor here for a year and a half.  The problem is
lack
> of
> > responsibility and motivation.  I have tried everything that I can think
> of
> > to try yo get the employees to understand that we are a team here for
the
> > benefit of the patients that are waitng for the results of thier
biopsies.
> > Before I came here they hadn't had a supervisor for almost 3 years.
> > The things that I have tried have caused the following responses from
the
> > employees:
> > "That is childish" - in response to a reward system
> > "She is too direct" - in response to my expectations
> > "She is condinscending" - in response to my staff meetings when errors
are
> > pointed out
> >
> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated-- I am ready to give up and I
> don't
> > like to give up.
> >
> > I would prefer to remain anonymous on the list server, but if anyone
would
> > like to delve deeper, I would be happy to chat outside the list server.
> >
> >
>
>