RE: ? about Histologist work
You are right, Geoff, it does happen in other labs. I was just talking to a
Formulation Tech who is frothing at the mouth because The Chemists are
insisting that he make something that he told them wouldn't work when he first
saw the specs!
They have changed things 3 times now, just not what he told them wouldn't work
in the first place. It still doesn't!!!!
From: Geoff McAuliffe [SMTP:mcauliff@UMDNJ.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:14 AM
To: Rob Crawford
Cc: 'Lesley Weston'; HistoNet@pathology.swmed.edu
Subject: Re: ? about Histologist work
Unfortunately, this sort of thing is common in our line of work. Techs
come to me for advice. I give it. They relay it to their boss. He does not
believe them. Then he comes to me. I give him the same advice. Now he
Years ago I knew an MD researcher who was convinced that Zenker's fix
was the "best" for all histology, including histochemistry (he read it
somewhere). He went from histologist to histologist trying to figure out why
his reactions would not work. We all told him the same thing. He would not
believe any of us and finally dropped the project. Thus science advances
I suspect that this sort of thing happens everywhere, we just know about
it in our field.
Rob Crawford wrote:
> Wow Lesley- do you work in my lab?! My current peeve is that when I
> suggest a way of setting up a project no one seems to think that it will
> work and then having a collaborator/grad student/postdoc suggest the
> exact same thing and having it immediately approved. Guess that's why
> I'm looking for a new job...
> Still could be worse.
> Rob Crawford
> Univ. of Washington
> Chamberlain Lab
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lesley Weston [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 8:34 AM
> To: 'HistoNet@pathology.swmed.edu '
> Subject: Re: ? about Histologist work
> You forgot the bit about how, after you have solved all the problems and
> produced a smoothly-working protocol to do something no-one has even
> to do before, the project is taken away from you and given to a graduate
> student. The papers resulting from your ideas and work are then
> bearing the student's name, but not yours. Even so, it's a lot more fun
> routine hospital work.
> Lesley Weston.
> on 08/03/2003 7:13 AM, Morken, Tim at firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> > A research histologist is one who has to work at 110 percent to make
> up for
> > the deficiencies of the person who gives them tissue without ever
> > to the histologist before hand to find out how best to treat and
> > said tissue. don't feel bad - research is all about figuring out how
> to do
> > something no one has done before, and often things that logically
> can't be
> > done - often by researchers who have no clue how to do the work
> > And projects can take years - I have been working for 18 months on a
> > and all we have done is figured out the best way to maintain and treat
> > tissue explants for best results - we have not really started the main
> > yet!
> > Tim Morken
> > Atlanta
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Snobird75@aol.com
> > To: HistoNet@pathology.swmed.edu
> > Sent: 3/7/2003 3:45 PM
> > Subject: ? about Histologist work
> > Ok here goes;
> > What is the difference between a Histologist and a Research
> > First I have been trained in histology including my AA Degree from a
> > recognized approved college, for the field of Histology.I am board
> > certified, ASCP since 1996.
> > I have in the past work in Histology at two local Hospitals.
> > With routine work, microtoming paraffin sections, also fresh frozen.
> > tissue from Human Hospital surgeries.
> > I now have a job in research . I have been working here now for 3.5
> > . I
> > cut a lot of skin, brains,ear tissue, from different rodents also cut
> > large
> > brain sections and Hearts from Swine pigs and NHP. I also cut up to
> > over 1,000 slides on a given protocol ( several rodents)
> > I also cut multiple sections of brain 8 slides on on block.
> > I have cut up to 10 slides on mouse ears. (serial sections).
> > I have even received awards for outstanding histology slides I have
> > I also am involved with per fusions of rodents.
> > Now with this type of work I am I a research Histologist?
> > I work for many doctors here in research.
> > I have one doctor that is for some reason not happy all of a sudden
> > the brains I cut for him. He feels he need to teach me to be a
> > Histologist.
> > He even came and picked his blocks up , he tried to cut them and he
> > can't
> > do any better then me.
> > But yet again he wants to teach me to be a research histologist.
> > I am I missing something here.
> > I have been in the field since 1996.
> > Does anyone know the difference on how I will microtome different
> > a
> > research histologist?
> > Thank you
> > Sandi Miller HT
> > USAMRICD Research
> > Md
Geoff McAuliffe, Ph.D.
Neuroscience and Cell Biology
Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
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