Re: [Histonet] (no subject) double label

From:Alice Fleming



Hello Gayle,  Sorry about the confusion. Yes, I'm detecting the  
proteins with antibodies in a double staining.  I'd like to try  
completing staining of the first antibody the way I have been doing  
it (unmasking with citrate buffer, quenching, primary antibody,  
biotinylated secondary antibody, HRP-conjugated streptavidin, FITC- 
conjugated tyramide), then somehow strip that primary antibody before  
continuing a similar process with the second primary antibody and  
Cy3.  Perkin Elmer says the FITC-tyramide will be covalently bound  
and should stay on through subsequent steps.

Do you know a good way to strip the first antibody?

Also, could you tell me more about fluorophores interfering with each  
other (part of your message got cut off)?

Thanks, Alice


On Jun 8, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Gayle Callis wrote:

>
> You lost me on this message, can you tell us exactly how you are  
> doing this?  Are you detecting the proteins with antibodies, in a  
> double staining?
>
> You may have a problem with quenching (this is NOT photobleaching)  
> where the fluorophores interfer with each other in such cloAt 09:20  
> AM 6/8/2007, you wrote:
>> Hi,  I work in a research lab and have been trying to work out a
>> protocol for doing a double label for two proteins that really co-  
>> localizeóthat is, they bind each other.  So far, my results make me
>> think thereís some physical interference going on between the
>> antibodies (and/or the attached biotin-streptavidin, etc)óI see
>> mostly Cy3 or FITC, rarely a yellow merge.
>>
>> Iíve been using Perkin-Elmerís tyramide amplification for the final
>> step and really like it for each of these proteins individually (and
>> in some other double label experiments where the target proteins are
>> in separate cells or compartments).  The company says I should be
>> able to strip the first antibody-biotin-streptavidin off, leaving
>> only the tyramide-fluorochrome bound to the tissue, then proceed to
>> the second antibody.  But they donít have protocols for doing that.
>> Anyone have some ideas?
>>
>> Alternatively, Dako suggested I use their polymer system (since the
>> polymer is very small), with their stripper in between antibodies.
>> They are not sure if this will work and itís pretty expensive, so Iíd
>> like to hear if anyone has tried this.
>>
>> Oh, Iíd like to stick to fluorescent signal, and I really have to go
>> with paraffin-embedded tissue.
>>
>> Thank a lot,
>>
>> Alice
>>
>>
>> Alice Fleming, PhD
>> Department of Human Genetics
>> Gonda Building 5524
>> University of California Los Angeles
>> Los Angeles, CA 90095
>> 310-267-2456
>>
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Alice Fleming, PhD
Department of Human Genetics
Gonda Building 5524
University of California Los Angeles
Los Angeles, CA 90095
310-267-2456





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