Re: negotiate wages


my thoughts on the matter...
perhaps it is not so much that sharing your salary with others is illegal, but
unprofessional and unverifiable, so what is the point...
i think that inorder for a salary survey to be valid the respondence must
provide a contact source so that the stated salary can be verified and this is
where HR comes in.  no one is going to take seriously information that my
buddy down the block gets paid so and so without verifying that with the
buddies employer, at least i would not as a manager.  there are many reasons
people will exaggerated or low cut the amount of money they make, taxes is one
reason that comes to mind.  this is why ASCP contacts administrators and not
the workers when compiling a salary survey.  some people don't even know how
much money they make, but your administrator sure does.  collecting the
information from administrators keeps you from having to do the extra step of
verifying the information because it came from the source.  not many people
have time to do a survey of workers and then verify the info with the
patsy ruegg

Kathleen Spencer wrote:

> I think that is a great idea. I was told I could never discuss salary
> with a co-worker or any one where I work, but the server goes all over
> the world, so why not?
>   I am in research now at a university and I think I make pretty good
> money, but I really have no idea what other histotechs are making. I
> must say though, I could never give up the relaxed atmosphere and the
> benefits here. I am too old.
> People responding to the survey would of course have to include years of
> experience, training etc.
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2002, at 11:12 PM, Keith, Cindy wrote:
> >  So why don't we do a survey here on the histonet?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geoff McAuliffe
> > To: Bruce Gapinski
> > Cc: ''
> > Sent: 6/19/02 5:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: negotiate wages
> >
> > Bruce Gapinski wrote:
> >
> > How do you negotiate your wages? Do you belong to a union? If so is
> > there
> > web access to the Histology wages?
> > This appears to be the only "legal" way for us to negotiate with our
> > employer. If I were to call you, and ask you what you make (as I'd done
> > before for years) I could be fired for collusion. Don't bother, I've
> > checked
> > it out. Called Washington  DC and talked to the Anti-trust people, it's
> > legal.
> >
> >     Rubbish!! Name the law, the exact statute please, that is violated.
> > What case law supports this opinion? I think you talked to the wrong
> > people in DC.
> >     What you are saying is that no one in the country can ask anyone
> > else in the same profession what they are paid and use that information
> > to negotiate a higher salary. Since such a law could not be applied to
> > one profession, it must apply to all. Or maybe there is a specific law
> > that targets HTs and HTLs? The "Parade" magazine that comes with my
> > Sunday paper has a salary survey of sorts each year, "what people make".
> > So if I read that and use that information to negotiate  higher pay, the
> > person quoted and the author and the editor and the publisher and I are
> > all guilty of collusion?
> >     Of course, your employer is constantly (24 hours/day) monitoring
> > your conversations with others in the profession to be sure that no
> > "collusion" occurs. You meet a colleague from the lab across town at a
> > local workshop. She tells you she got a raise but she can't tell you to
> > what or how much because it is or might become collusion??
> >     Could we have some common sense here? Collusion is often illegal but
> > asking someone how much they make is NOT collusion.
> >
> > Geoff
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