I agree with Cindy et al....
This would be fertile ground right here at the histonet.
I have had so many inquires over the last year concerning histo pay.
Shortages abound here in the Chicago area.
The temp agencies receive $40 an hour with $23 going to the tech.
Many of them are so "independent", it is easier to do without them and go back to paying overtime to the faithful staff. That only can go on so long before overtime turns into tired "over the hill" phenomenon.

How did it happen in Cytology? Who were they big shakers and movers? They were successful to break out into their own category. Maybe some of the Anantomic Pathology managers/directors would have a blue print for this.

If this is not the right forum for these thoughts my apologies.
Otherwise many thanks for many good contributions and the great histonet@pathology staff.
Christine Hawkins

-----Original Message-----
From: rueggp [mailto:rueggp@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:06 AM
To: Keith, Cindy
Cc: 'HistoNet@Pathology.swmed.edu'
Subject: Re: negotiate wages

go ahead and organize it, i will participate.
patsy

"Keith, Cindy" wrote:

>  So why don't we do a survey here on the histonet?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff McAuliffe
> To: Bruce Gapinski
> Cc: 'HistoNet@Pathology.swmed.edu'
> Sent: 6/19/02 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: negotiate wages
>
> Bruce Gapinski wrote:
>
> How do you negotiate your wages? Do you belong to a union? If so is
> there
> web access to the Histology wages?
> This appears to be the only "legal" way for us to negotiate with our
> employer. If I were to call you, and ask you what you make (as I'd done
> before for years) I could be fired for collusion. Don't bother, I've
> checked
> it out. Called Washington  DC and talked to the Anti-trust people, it's
> legal.
>
>     Rubbish!! Name the law, the exact statute please, that is violated.
> What case law supports this opinion? I think you talked to the wrong
> people in DC.
>     What you are saying is that no one in the country can ask anyone
> else in the same profession what they are paid and use that information
> to negotiate a higher salary. Since such a law could not be applied to
> one profession, it must apply to all. Or maybe there is a specific law
> that targets HTs and HTLs? The "Parade" magazine that comes with my
> Sunday paper has a salary survey of sorts each year, "what people make".
> So if I read that and use that information to negotiate  higher pay, the
> person quoted and the author and the editor and the publisher and I are
> all guilty of collusion?
>     Of course, your employer is constantly (24 hours/day) monitoring
> your conversations with others in the profession to be sure that no
> "collusion" occurs. You meet a colleague from the lab across town at a
> local workshop. She tells you she got a raise but she can't tell you to
> what or how much because it is or might become collusion??
>     Could we have some common sense here? Collusion is often illegal but
> asking someone how much they make is NOT collusion.
>
> Geoff
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