Wonderful idea! Maybe we should include housing prices? Bruce

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Keith, Cindy [mailto:cindy_keith@ardais.com]
		Sent:	Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:12 PM
		To:	'HistoNet@Pathology.swmed.edu'
		Subject:	RE: negotiate wages

		 So why don't we do a survey here on the histonet?

		-----Original Message-----
		From: Geoff McAuliffe
		To: Bruce Gapinski
		Cc: 'HistoNet@Pathology.swmed.edu'
		Sent: 6/19/02 5:04 PM
		Subject: Re: negotiate wages

		Bruce Gapinski wrote: 

		How do you negotiate your wages? Do you belong to a union?
If so is
		there 
		web access to the Histology wages? 
		This appears to be the only "legal" way for us to negotiate
with our 
		employer. If I were to call you, and ask you what you make
(as I'd done 
		before for years) I could be fired for collusion. Don't
bother, I've
		checked 
		it out. Called Washington  DC and talked to the Anti-trust
people, it's 
		legal.

		    Rubbish!! Name the law, the exact statute please, that
is violated.
		What case law supports this opinion? I think you talked to
the wrong
		people in DC. 
		    What you are saying is that no one in the country can
ask anyone
		else in the same profession what they are paid and use that
information
		to negotiate a higher salary. Since such a law could not be
applied to
		one profession, it must apply to all. Or maybe there is a
specific law
		that targets HTs and HTLs? The "Parade" magazine that comes
with my
		Sunday paper has a salary survey of sorts each year, "what
people make".
		So if I read that and use that information to negotiate
higher pay, the
		person quoted and the author and the editor and the
publisher and I are
		all guilty of collusion? 
		    Of course, your employer is constantly (24 hours/day)
monitoring
		your conversations with others in the profession to be sure
that no
		"collusion" occurs. You meet a colleague from the lab across
town at a
		local workshop. She tells you she got a raise but she can't
tell you to
		what or how much because it is or might become collusion?? 
		    Could we have some common sense here? Collusion is often
illegal but
		asking someone how much they make is NOT collusion. 

		Geoff 
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