RE: HT/HTL

From:Louri Caldwell

1. To get experience working in any kind of lab - like an            
internship.
2. Just taking a break before entering grad school.

Louri



>From: "Horn, Hazel V" 
>To: 'Louri Caldwell' , tim9@cdc.gov
>CC: histonet@pathology.swmed.edu
>Subject: RE: HT/HTL
>Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:06:58 -0500
>
>Why would anyone with a BS degree want to be a lab aide??
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Louri Caldwell [SMTP:louri_c@hotmail.com]
> > Sent:	Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:16 AM
> > To:	tim9@cdc.gov
> > Cc:	histonet@pathology.swmed.edu
> > Subject:	RE: HT/HTL
> >
> >
> > I agree.  Having a higher certification shouldn't mean higher pay unless
> > the
> > duties are different between the two classifications.  The HTL should be
> > paid higher if the responsibilities of the position warrant it.
> >
> > I have a lab aide here that has a BS degree - not certified - and I pay
> > her
> > as I do all the other lab aides.  Her responsibilities are the same.  It
> > seems the same should apply to techs as well.
> >
> > Just my thoughts.
> >
> > Louri Caldwell, BS, HTL (ASCP)
> >
> > _________________________________--
> > >From: "Morken, Tim" 
> > >CC: 'Histonet' 
> > >Subject: RE: HT/HTL
> > >Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 07:56:27 -0400
> > >
> > >To me just getting a higher certification is not grounds for higher 
>pay.
> > >The
> > >person would have to take on more responsibility to earn that. If they
> > are
> > >doing the same work, I suggest that is a waste of the higher-certified
> > >persons knowledge and skill.
> > >
> > >At the last hospital I worked in we had two grades for techs. We had a
> > >larger lab with 11 techs, so it was easy to designate different duties.
> > One
> > >was "bench tech" and that covered all the routine work, including
> > immuno's
> > >done under supervision. We also had a "Senior Tech" position which
> > covered
> > >supervising bench techs in a given area. For instance, We had three
> > senior
> > >techs (four if you count cytology), one over routine cutting, staining
> > and
> > >special stains, and one over the grossing/frozen section area and one
> > over
> > >IHC,ISH Kidney and muscle work. Each senior tech was responsible for
> > >managing the workflow, handling problems, developing technologies,
> > training
> > >new techs, and covering for abscences if necessary. They had a
> > significant
> > >pay difference between these two positions. The supervisor was another
> > >level
> > >above the senior tech.
> > >
> > >At a smaller lab I worked at (4 techs and a lab assistant) it was not 
>as
> > >clear cut as far as supervisory jobs went. But we did have distinctions
> > >between lower grade and higher grade. The base was lab assistant, who 
>got
> > >all the grunt work. Then if a person got their HT they were promoted 
>and
> > >handled routine histology work and didn't have to do the lab assistant
> > type
> > >work. If a person got their HTL then they were eligible for special
> > >training
> > >in IHC, ISH, and EM. They were also made responsible for some aspect of
> > the
> > >lab; maybe specials, grossing, IHC etc. We all did the routine work, 
>but
> > >then had the special responsibility for a given area. That 
>responsiblilty
> > >included QA/QC, writing procedures, developing new techniques, training
> > >others, etc. The pay difference was significant between HT and HTL. 
>There
> > >was no policy that there had to be a certain number of HT's or HTL's; 
>in
> > >fact the lab director would have been happy as punch to have all HTL's
> > >working in the lab (besides lab assistants, which we always had). This
> > >seemed to work well, even in such a small lab. When I left we had three
> > >HTL's and one HT and the lab ran very smoothly. I will say that the lab
> > >director (pathologist) was always interested in all kinds of training 
>for
> > >the people in our lab and would pay out of his own pocket to help 
>people
> > >out
> > >(the hospital would pay nothing!). I realize now that I was in a very
> > >special situation at that institution.
> > >
> > >Tim Morken
> > >Atlanta
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Soto, Roxanne [mailto:RSoto@covhealth.org]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:55 PM
> > >To: Histonet (E-mail)
> > >Subject: HT/HTL
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi everyone,
> > >
> > >Can anyone tell me what you do with job classification between
> > technicians
> > >and technologists?  Do you have a distinction?  If an HT and an HTL sit
> > >down
> > >side by side and do the same exact work everyday, no more, or no less,
> > >should there be a distinction between them?  And by distinction, I am 
>job
> > >code and pay grade.
> > >Thanks for any input.
> > >Roxanne Soto HT(ASCP)
> > >AP Supervisor
> > >FSL (SJH, SFH, EMH)
> > >414-447-2272
> > >rsoto@covhealth.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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