From:"Horn, Hazel V"

Why would anyone with a BS degree want to be a lab aide??    

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Louri Caldwell []
> Sent:	Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:16 AM
> To:
> Cc:
> Subject:	RE: HT/HTL
> I agree.  Having a higher certification shouldn't mean higher pay unless
> the 
> duties are different between the two classifications.  The HTL should be 
> paid higher if the responsibilities of the position warrant it.
> I have a lab aide here that has a BS degree - not certified - and I pay
> her 
> as I do all the other lab aides.  Her responsibilities are the same.  It 
> seems the same should apply to techs as well.
> Just my thoughts.
> Louri Caldwell, BS, HTL (ASCP)
> _________________________________--
> >From: "Morken, Tim" 
> >CC: 'Histonet' 
> >Subject: RE: HT/HTL
> >Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 07:56:27 -0400
> >
> >To me just getting a higher certification is not grounds for higher pay. 
> >The
> >person would have to take on more responsibility to earn that. If they
> are
> >doing the same work, I suggest that is a waste of the higher-certified
> >persons knowledge and skill.
> >
> >At the last hospital I worked in we had two grades for techs. We had a
> >larger lab with 11 techs, so it was easy to designate different duties.
> One
> >was "bench tech" and that covered all the routine work, including
> immuno's
> >done under supervision. We also had a "Senior Tech" position which
> covered
> >supervising bench techs in a given area. For instance, We had three
> senior
> >techs (four if you count cytology), one over routine cutting, staining
> and
> >special stains, and one over the grossing/frozen section area and one
> over
> >IHC,ISH Kidney and muscle work. Each senior tech was responsible for
> >managing the workflow, handling problems, developing technologies,
> training
> >new techs, and covering for abscences if necessary. They had a
> significant
> >pay difference between these two positions. The supervisor was another 
> >level
> >above the senior tech.
> >
> >At a smaller lab I worked at (4 techs and a lab assistant) it was not as
> >clear cut as far as supervisory jobs went. But we did have distinctions
> >between lower grade and higher grade. The base was lab assistant, who got
> >all the grunt work. Then if a person got their HT they were promoted and
> >handled routine histology work and didn't have to do the lab assistant
> type
> >work. If a person got their HTL then they were eligible for special 
> >training
> >in IHC, ISH, and EM. They were also made responsible for some aspect of
> the
> >lab; maybe specials, grossing, IHC etc. We all did the routine work, but
> >then had the special responsibility for a given area. That responsiblilty
> >included QA/QC, writing procedures, developing new techniques, training
> >others, etc. The pay difference was significant between HT and HTL. There
> >was no policy that there had to be a certain number of HT's or HTL's; in
> >fact the lab director would have been happy as punch to have all HTL's
> >working in the lab (besides lab assistants, which we always had). This
> >seemed to work well, even in such a small lab. When I left we had three
> >HTL's and one HT and the lab ran very smoothly. I will say that the lab
> >director (pathologist) was always interested in all kinds of training for
> >the people in our lab and would pay out of his own pocket to help people 
> >out
> >(the hospital would pay nothing!). I realize now that I was in a very
> >special situation at that institution.
> >
> >Tim Morken
> >Atlanta
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Soto, Roxanne []
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:55 PM
> >To: Histonet (E-mail)
> >Subject: HT/HTL
> >
> >
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >Can anyone tell me what you do with job classification between
> technicians
> >and technologists?  Do you have a distinction?  If an HT and an HTL sit 
> >down
> >side by side and do the same exact work everyday, no more, or no less,
> >should there be a distinction between them?  And by distinction, I am job
> >code and pay grade.
> >Thanks for any input.
> >Roxanne Soto HT(ASCP)
> >AP Supervisor
> >414-447-2272
> >
> >
> >
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