RE: Imposters and Dishonesty

From:"Tarpley, John" <>

I don't want to drag out this thread as we have more interesting things to
discuss, but I would like to address a few points. First,
indicates that he has been badly treated by members of the list and
therefore wants to keep his identity unknown. I can certainly understand
this and feel that bad manners either from the initial poster or other
members of the list are unacceptable. Amos Brooks also makes some good
Amos Says,
    I am in a vast number of mailing lists. I also go by a few different
aliases (Historic reenactment or Role playing). So I think it would be
distracting to those who receive responses on those lists to always see the
name of a hospital that did not exist in the 1400s in France. And confusing
for you all to hear me refer to myself as Christoffel d'Allaines sur Comte
in this forum (Amos Brooks is a name that is not documentable for that time
Amos, I'm just referring to HistoNet. People should conduct themselves on
other lists as those lists dictate and I certainly wouldn't sign my self as
an Associate Scientist on the various woodworking lists I use.
He further writes,
    Also, John, as your own signature states. Not all the statements you
make reflect those of your employer. Taken a step farther it is feasible
that an employer would not want someone saying where they were from. I have
gotten grumbled at for "giving trade secrets" by simply explaining one of
our procedures on the Histonet. I laughed it off and do it anyway, but I can
imagine an employer really causing a problem over this.
Amos, most all of us work for an organization, company, or hospital and
those organizations have rules we must follow. I always try to follow those
rules that apply to my employment, but I've never worked for an organization
that refused to let me identify myself as a member or employee of the
organization. If that is the rule of an employer than you'd need to follow
that rule, but if the organization doesn't want to acknowledge its people
then perhaps its not the best place to work.
And lastly Amos wrote,
    I have spoken with someone from a reference lab who listed her work info
in a signature line. There was a person from another lab who had a beef
(problem) with that lab so without even knowing the person or what she had
to say ripped her up on and off the list just because of the lab she worked
in. Every time she posted anything this person got nasty. She stopped using
a tag line and opened a new e-mail still using the same name but a different
IP address (no longer or and the troll left
her alone.
Again this is a point where bad manners should not be tolerated. For
monitored lists anyone doing this should be referred to the list owner. If
the comments are in any way obscene or personal attacks then the messages
should be referred to the postmaster at the ISP sending the mail. Most will
not tolerate such abuses of their services. 
I still stand by my comment that I like to know who I'm talking to. I don't
respond to anonymous phone calls, anonymous letters, and I don't see why
anonymous E-mails should be treated differently.

John E. Tarpley 5-1-A
Associate Scientist
Amgen Inc.
One Amgen Center Drive
Thousand Oaks, CA 91320 
These Opinions are my own and not necessarily those of my employer.

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