We had that and the AFIP. Sure has changed! 
Bruce (old-school, I am not a rep) Gapinski HT(ASCP)

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	RKline@emindustries.com
[mailto:RKline@emindustries.com]
		Sent:	Monday, July 15, 2002 5:57 AM
		To:	Bruce Gapinski
		Cc:	'histonet@pathology.swmed.edu'
		Subject:	Re: old-school


		Don"t worry Bruce, you're not the only one.  I studied for
the ASCP exam
		with Ann Preece's book.

		Rande Kline





		Bruce Gapinski  on 07/15/2002
08:16:29 AM

		To:    "'histonet@pathology.swmed.edu'"

		cc:
		Subject:    old-school


		Fred,
		 Ann Preece wrote the first Histology book I ever studied
from. I'm
		old school histology. I used to even sharpen knives, stain,
and coverslip
		by
		hand. Once or  twice when our one and only tissue processor
went down I
		even
		processed by hand! Yuck! What's worse is that we even tucked
a piece of
		typing paper with the accession # under the coverslip! Sorry
I'm ranting.
		Ann Preece A Manual For Histologic Technicians Third edition
Little, Brown
		and Co. Boston copywright 1959,1965,1972. Pg 228 has an old
Mayer's
		Hematoxylin formula that includes Chloral hydrate.
		Bruce (old-school, I am not a rep) Gapinski HT(ASCP)

		  -----Original Message-----
		  From:     Monson, Frederick C. [mailto:fmonson@wcupa.edu]
		
		  Sent:     Friday, July 12, 2002 1:27 PM
		  To: 'Bruce Gapinski'
		  Subject:  RE: Jore's Fixative

		  And Respectfully back at you, just to show my total
		ignorance.

		  Who is/was Ann Preece?  I sure would like the original
ref.
		for that
		  alteration of Mayer's original recipe which I have in all
of
		my old tomes.

		  Even worse, I can hardly remember how to get home any
more,
		how can you
		  remember someone I never even heard of (he asked
		humbly....)?


		  Fred

		  > ----------
		  > From:   Bruce Gapinski
		  > Sent:   Friday, July 12, 2002 4:18 PM
		  > To:     'Monson, Frederick C.'; Bruce Gapinski
		  > Subject:      RE: Jore's Fixative
		  >
		  > Ann Preece third edition pg. 228 Mayers hematoxylin. I'm
		glad I can
		  > remember
		  > some things.
		  > Respectfully,
		  > Bruce Gapinski HT(ASCP)
		  >
		  >         -----Original Message-----
		  >         From: Monson, Frederick C.
		[mailto:fmonson@wcupa.edu]

		  >         Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:10 PM
		  >         To:   'Bruce Gapinski'
		  >         Subject:    RE: Jore's Fixative
		  >
		  >         Hi Bruce,
		  >
		  >               The only time I used chloral hydrate
		on slides was
		  > when I totally
		  >         lost control of their behavior.  Mayer's
		hematoxylin doesn't
		  > contain any
		  >         chloral hydrate that I ever seen in a
		recipe.
		  >               You really have trouble when those
		slides start
		  > jumping out of the
		  >         Coplin jars late on Friday.
		  >
		  >         Have a nice weekend,
		  >
		  >         Fred
		  >
		  >         Frederick C. Monson, PhD
		  >         Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging
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		  >         > ----------
		  >         > From:     Bruce Gapinski
		  >         > Sent:     Friday, July 12, 2002 3:45
		PM
		  >         > To:       'Cheryl Crowder'; histonet
		  >         > Subject:  RE: Jore's Fixative
		  >         >
		  >         > I thought Chloral Hydrate was a controlled
		substance
		  > (knock-out drops or
		  >         > something) and used in Mayer's
		hematoxylin.
		  >         > Bruce Gapinski HT(ASCP)
		  >         >
		  >         >           -----Original Message-----
		  >         >           From: Cheryl Crowder
		  > [mailto:ccrowder@mail.vetmed.lsu.edu]
		
		  >         >           Sent: Friday, July 12,
		2002 12:14 PM
		  >         >           To:   histonet
		  >         >           Subject:    Jore's
		Fixative
		  >         >
		  >         >           Jore's is a buffered
		formalin fixative which
		  > contains
		  >         > chloral hydrate.
		  >         >           We have used it for years.
		Fresh specimens
		  > are placed in
		  >         > the fixative
		  >         >           and do not turned that
		"fixed" color but,
		  > rather, retain the
		  >         > "fresh"
		  >         >           look.  It is good for
		showing students
		  > lesions months after
		  >         > the tissue
		  >         >           has been taken from the
		body.
		  >         >                Contact me personally
		is you are
		  > interested in the
		  >         > formulation of
		  >         >           the solution.  Cheryl
		  >         >
		  >         >
		  >         >           Cheryl Crowder, BA,
		HTL(ASCP)
		  >         >           Chief Technologist
		  >         >           Department of
		Pathobiological Sciences
		  >         >           School of Veterinary
		Medicine
		  >         >           Louisiana State University
		  >         >           Baton Rouge, LA  70803
		  >         >
		  >         >           (225) 578-9784
		  >         >           FAX  (225) 578-9720