Re: Automated EM processing; problems with lynx.
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| From: | Jeff Crews <jcrews@organo.com> |
| To: | Jakrobsmith@aol.com, histonet@pathology.swmed.edu |
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This is our current protocol:
VIAL # SOLUTION RUN TIME
1 0.1M Caco. Buffer 15 mins.**
2 0.1M Caco. Buffer 15 mins.
3 0.1M Caco. Buffer 15 mins.
4 1% 0s04 or 0.2% RuO4 in Caco Buffer 2 hours**
5 0.1M Caco. Buffer 15 mins.
6 H2O 15 mins
7 H2O 15 mins.
8 2% Uranyl Acetate 1 hour.
9 H2O 15 mins
10 H2O 15 mins.
11 H2O 15 mins.
12 50% EtOH 15 mins.
13 70% EtOH 15 mins.
14 95% EtOH 15 min
15 100% EtOH 15mins.**
16 100% EtOH 15 mins.
17 Propylene Oxide 30 mins.
18 Prop. Oxide/Epoxy 1: 1 24 hours**
I hope that this is legible and that the formatting doesn't get
screwed up in the mail. As you can see, it's much the same as
yours except for the osmication, en-bloc uranium staining, and
the rinses that those steps require. However, we do allow more
infiltration time in the 1:1. The "24 hours" is programmed in so
that it will sit overnight. After that we change the stem and
baskets into new 1:1 for the rest of the day, and then put it in
straight epoxy (actually, we are using a mix of Embed 812 and
araldite) under vacuum for a couple of hours before embedding.
We generally use flat molds because orientation is usually
pretty important to us in the skin business.
We are using the shallow baskets that occupy one space
between the holes on the stem. We could fit more than 4 on the
stem, but we never do due to fears of having insufficient
reagent:tissue ratios. Four shallow baskets has always given us
good results and we haven't needed ot exceed that.
I would consider how much reagent you are using in relation to
the amount of tissue. Also, does the tissue have plenty of room
to move around in the basket? I assume that you are using about
1mm cubes of tissue.
If you are using the hinged circular cover that fits around the
basket stem and covers the reagent vial, make sure that you
don't squeeze it shut so far that it grips the stem. If you do,
it won't agitate: the arm will move up and down but the stem and
baskets will not. And finally, make sure that your 100% is
stored over Molecular Sieves to keep it dry. I always fill the
100% and PO vials last.
Our protocol may be overkill, especially with the
multiple changes of epoxy, but the extra time and reagents are
insignificant compared to the cost of reprocessing or losing a
sample. Drop me a line if I was unclear on any of this.
Jeffrey S. Crews, HTL (ASCP)
Organogenesis, Inc.
Jeffrey,
Thankyou for your reply. Our processing schedule is as follows;
Pot 1. 30% Alcohol - 15 mins
Pot 2. 50% Alcohol - 15mins
Pot 3. 70% Alcohol - 15 mins. Pot 4. 90% Alcohol - 15 mins.
Pot5. 100% Alcohol - 15mins. Pot 6. 100% Alcohol - 15mins
Pot 7. 100% Alcohol - 15 mins. Pot 8. 100% Alcohol - 15 mins.
Pot 9. Propylene Oxide - 10 Mins . Pot 10. Prop.Oxide 10 mins.
Pot 11. Prop.Oxide - 10 mins.
Pot 12. 50:50 Prop. Oxide/Resin - 60 mins
Pot 13. Resin - 60 mins. Pot 14. Resin - 60 mins.
Pot 15. Resin - 60 mins.
Total processing time is 7.5 hours.
We think that our main problem is with air bubbles created by the dipping of
the arm on the processing machine. Could you please let us know which size
basket you use as you mentioned that you can get 4 baskets on the stem. The
baskets that we use are the deeper ones and we can only get three on the
stem. We seemed to have more problems with the smaller shallower baskets.
Look forward to hearing from you at dave@rhhhistology.demon.co.uk.
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