I do not share your disdain for OJT techs. Looks like you've had a few nasty
people to work with. I'm sorry. Any employee who would deliberately leave
out a step to make their work "look better" has no grasp on the purpose of
Histology. Where in school do you learn integrity and helping the patient?
I'm proud to work w/ my OJT co-workers. Bruce (I am not a rep) Gapinski
HT(ASCP)

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Educatedhisto@cs.com [mailto:Educatedhisto@cs.com]
		Sent:	Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:41 AM
		To:	alex.knisely@kcl.ac.uk; JHoffpa464@aol.com;
CrochiereSteve@aol.com
		Cc:	histonet@pathology.swmed.edu
		Subject:	Re: Professional equals degree?

		Hey, no one gave me a piece of paper.  I earned my degrees
through hard work 
		and studying.  Maybe someone gave you your degree in Europe,
does Sally 
		Struthers ship over seas?  Its not the paper but the class
work and theory 
		behind it all.  You don't get this in "on the job training."
With on the job 
		training you are only as smart as the person training you.
I have seen 
		people training others and specifically leave something out
of the sequence 
		so that their work would look better.  Its usually minor but
still it effects 
		quality.  Don't you people understand that training in a
class room under the 
		direct supervision of a PHD is better than in the work place
with someone who 
		may not be training you right?

		J. F.
		SoCal

		Well, I don't know.

		Time to go back to THE WIZARD OF OZ and re-screen that clip
about "Why do
		you need a brain when I can give you a diploma?", I guess.

		Professionals stay till the work is done, and don't
clock-watch, and care
		deeply about getting right what they do, and are available
to help out when
		a glitch gets in the way of the work -- that is, they don't
mind
		troubleshooting by telephone even if they're not officially
"on call".

		I know people with degrees whose behaviour is
unprofessional, and I am VERY
		happy to work alongside people whose behaviour is
professional whether or
		not they have a piece of paper somewhere on file.

		Alex K

		At 16:19 08/01/02 -0500, Educatedhisto@cs.com wrote:
		>that actually is unprofessional. the proper way for a
professional to resign 
		>is to give 4 weeks notice. that way if they will have time
to find someone 
		>else to fill your position. you also should not use your
vaca time as
		notice. 
		>it is unfair to the employer and they have the right to
refuse to allow you 
		>to take that ime off. 
		>when i left my job in a hospital(i worked there 8 years) i
had over 40 days 
		>of vaction. i just had them pay me for it. 
		>John
		>
		>No its not John, because Histotechs are not PROFESSIONALS.
Professionals
		are 
		>people with degrees
		>
		>
		Alex Knisely, MD
		Consultant Histopathologist

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