Re: Breast Tissue Fixation

From:GregorLuck@aol.com


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Hello,

We use "Penfix" as well as described by "DRitter".  In addition we fix all of 
our tissues in "Prefer" from Anatech,Inc. rather than 10% NBF.  Judging from 
the responses I've read I would speculate that 10% NBF is not solely the 
answer despite claims from some of my peers who question the fixing 
capabilites of formalin substitutes.  Obviously extended fixation for fatty 
specimens is a plus but there is "NO" substitue for thinly trimmed sections @ 
the time of grossing.

I once had a block of lung tissue from an autopsy that sat in 10% NBF for 
over 30 days and was still suboptimal when it was finally processed.  Of 
course the pathologist thought something was wrong with our processor, 
reagents or processing schedule.  On further investigation, when I melted the 
block down to take a closer look I noticed that the tissue block had the 
distinct markings from the cassette grid (ie. the tissue had been so 
compressed into the cassette that I don't think any length of prolonged 
fixation would have allowed for adequate infiltration/perfusion of the tissue 
sample for proper dehydration, clearing and  subsequent impregnation with 
paraffin).

In this new era of "lumpectomies" and the rush for rapid turnaround times we 
are faced with the dilemma of satisfying our pathologists and the clinicians 
as well, while maintaining the quality for the patients.  We need to work on 
our pathologists to hold these specimens for prolonged fixation and to trim 
them thin, even if it means more blocks for us to cut and them to read and to 
encourage them to educate the clinicians on the difficulties of giving these 
fatty specimens the time and energies necessary for us to prepare quality 
slides.  
OK, I'm off my soapbox; hope others will have some inputs for us to share 
with our pathologists.  I have got into the habit of printing hard copies of  
these stories about breast and other fatty specimens and distribute them to 
our group so they don't think I'm brushing them off without due consideration 
to their concerns.

Respectfully,
Greg Luck
Anatomic Path.; Deaconess Med. Cntr.
Spokane, Wa



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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Hello,
<BR>
<BR>We use "Penfix" as well as described by "DRitter".  In addition we fix all of 
<BR>our tissues in "Prefer" from Anatech,Inc. rather than 10% NBF.  Judging from 
<BR>the responses I've read I would speculate that 10% NBF is not solely the 
<BR>answer despite claims from some of my peers who question the fixing 
<BR>capabilites of formalin substitutes.  Obviously extended fixation for fatty 
<BR>specimens is a plus but there is "NO" substitue for thinly trimmed sections @ 
<BR>the time of grossing.
<BR>
<BR>I once had a block of lung tissue from an autopsy that sat in 10% NBF for 
<BR>over 30 days and was still suboptimal when it was finally processed.  Of 
<BR>course the pathologist thought something was wrong with our processor, 
<BR>reagents or processing schedule.  On further investigation, when I melted the 
<BR>block down to take a closer look I noticed that the tissue block had the 
<BR>distinct markings from the cassette grid (ie. the tissue had been so 
<BR>compressed into the cassette that I don't think any length of prolonged 
<BR>fixation would have allowed for adequate infiltration/perfusion of the tissue 
<BR>sample for proper dehydration, clearing and  subsequent impregnation with 
<BR>paraffin).
<BR>
<BR>In this new era of "lumpectomies" and the rush for rapid turnaround times we 
<BR>are faced with the dilemma of satisfying our pathologists and the clinicians 
<BR>as well, while maintaining the quality for the patients.  We need to work on 
<BR>our pathologists to hold these specimens for prolonged fixation and to trim 
<BR>them thin, even if it means more blocks for us to cut and them to read and to 
<BR>encourage them to educate the clinicians on the difficulties of giving these 
<BR>fatty specimens the time and energies necessary for us to prepare quality 
<BR>slides.  
<BR>OK, I'm off my soapbox; hope others will have some inputs for us to share 
<BR>with our pathologists.  I have got into the habit of printing hard copies of  
<BR>these stories about breast and other fatty specimens and distribute them to 
<BR>our group so they don't think I'm brushing them off without due consideration 
<BR>to their concerns.
<BR>
<BR>Respectfully,
<BR>Greg Luck
<BR>Anatomic Path.; Deaconess Med. Cntr.
<BR>Spokane, Wa
<BR>
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