RE: Her-2/neu
John,
I have seen some antibodies showing more background staining at higher
temperatures e.g. S-100. (Polyclonal). I found that e.g. ER and PR reacted
one degree weaker at high temperature than according to normal room
temperature. You could incubate at e.g. 4°C, but I advise you to look into
your antibody dilution. I think it is also important to let the reagents
come to room temperature for e.g. retrieval buffers, as you may loose some
of your heating capacity when using a standard protocol. For me also, those
are personal findings and not established studies.
Best regards,
Donald Van Hecke
Lab. Ana Path
St. Lucas - Brugge
Belgium
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Dawson, Glen [SMTP:GDawson@Milw.Dynacare.com]
> Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 16:35
> Aan: Auld, John; 'HistoNet Server'
> Onderwerp: RE: Her-2/neu
>
> John,
>
> Although I haven't carried out a scientific study by any means, I have
> noticed a trend towards darker staining when the IHC reagents and the wash
> buffer are at room temp. as opposed to fresh out of the refridgerator. I
> use only room temp wash buffer on my routine IHC runs but always store my
> HercepTest wash buffer in the fridge. If I forget to take this wash
> buffer
> out early to warm and perform staining using wash buffer at roughly 4
> degrees C, staining intensity is drastically reduced. These results are
> not
> surprising nor are they inconsistent with the way one would expect any
> reactions to be affected due to temperature variances. DISCLAIMER: THESE
> ARE NOT CONTROLLED STUDIES. THESE ARE PERSONAL EXPERIENCES ONLY AND I AM
> NEITHER BASHING NOR ENDORSING ANY PRODUCTS OUT THERE.
>
> Glen Dawson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Auld, John [mailto:John.Auld@rfh.nthames.nhs.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:25 AM
> To: 'HistoNet Server'
> Subject: RE: Her-2/neu
>
>
> Glen
>
> I am interested in your comments about temperature of the reagents.
> We did a little experiment on how temperature affected immunostaining. My
> lab in not air conditioned and he temperature varies uite a bit,
> between 14
> and 33 C. I stained some slides at 14, 24, and 33 to assess what if any
> effect this had. I expected stronger staining more background at the
> higher temp, BUT to my surprise ER, at low and high temperatures,
> stained
> less cels and stained them weaker. These were not in line with a
> mislabelling and a few were repeated to check.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions or seen similar
>
> John Auld FIBMS MSc
> Biomedical Scientist 3
> Immunocytochemistry
> Department of Histopathology
> Royal Free Hospital
> Pond Street
> London NW3 2QG
> Tel 020 7794 0500 ext. 6516
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HistoNet Server [SMTP:histonet@pathology.swmed.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:47 AM
> > To: HistoNet Server
> > Subject: Daily Digest
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: 11 Dec 2001 15:27:55 -0600
> > From: "Dawson, Glen"
> > Subject: RE: Her-2/neu
> >
> > Cathy,
> >
> > I am currently doing FISH correlations on a number of cases done both
> here
> > and elsewhere in which the patient tissue was a 3+ on core biopsies but
> > were
> > negative on subsequent big blocks using the DAKO HercepTest kit. I am
> > also
> > monitoring the results closely on all HercepTest cases that I perform.
> > Preliminary results are leading me to believe that the temperature of
> both
> > the Kit reagents as well as the HercepTest wash buffer are a much bigger
> > factor than I had believed. There is a standing order here (Medical
> > College
> > of Wisconsin & Froedtert Hospital) to no longer do this test on breast
> > core
> > bx's until this problem is resolved. I'll let you know what I find out.
> >
> > Glen A. Dawson BS, HT & IHC (ASCP)
> > Lead IHC Technologist
> > Milwaukee, WI
> >
> > - -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cathy Thornton [mailto:cthornton@usiw.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:17 AM
> > To: histonet
> > Subject: Her-2/neu
> >
> >
> > Is anyone using anything other than Herceptest for clinical Her-2/neu
> > stains. If so what antibody and detection and could you discuss scoring
> > and
> > reporting the results?? Also has anyone done FISH correlations with IHC
> > results within your own laboratory?
> >
> > Pat Zeitlow
> > Boyce and Bynum Pathology Laboratories
> > Columbia, Missouri
> >
> >
> >
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