RE: Bone Marrow
First, in answer to your question, both Decal and Decal Stat contain
Hcl. Second, I read John Kiernan's reply regarding Bis-Chloromethylether
and I respect it. Arguments can be made on both sides of the BCME issue.
I will admit that we have never verified if 10% NBF and a typical HCL
decalcifier actually do create BCME. I will leave that experiment to
others. We just chose to err on the side of caution here. BCME or not,
we still maintain that a good rinse (preferably in Deionized water )
both before and after decalcification will make a noticeable difference
in the quality of decalcified tissue. Six minutes of rinse water is not
a large outlay of time or money to vastly improve the quality of your
Best Regards to all-
From: RSRICHMOND@aol.com [mailto:RSRICHMOND@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: Bone Marrow
Thanks, Cliff Berger at www.decal-bone.com for reminding us that >>Decal
registered trademark of Decal Chemical Corp.<< When I replied to this
before, I was on the road and without my reference books.
As many readers of this list know, I'm an elderly pathologist who does
tenens work, and thus sees many different working hospital and private
Cliff's observation that >>the trouble with most decalcified tissue is
the type of decalcifier used but the specimen handling before and after
decalcification. Proper fixation is usually the most important factor in
decalcified specimens<< is entirely correct. Let me add several
points to that.
If a piece of bone isn't thin enough to fixed overnight, it needs to be
down with a saw until it is thin enough. If a femoral head arrives over
weekend, it needs to be slabbed on Monday, the slab fixed overnight, and
decalcification begun on Tuesday. If the pathologist objects to the
can come in over the weekend and slab the bone, and, if he comes in
decalcify it also. (Dream on.)
Pathologists need saws, and what they want varies. Many pathology
supporting orthopedic services no longer have a saw at all! I am
use a Stryker oscillating saw (there's often one of these left over from
otherwise forgotten autopsy kit) on a piece of loose bone with no clamp.
old Satterlee amputation saw looks like something left over from the
War, but it's a good saw for those of us who aren't comfortable with
hand-hazardous power tools. Still better is a double-bladed saw made for
purpose. Since the Satterlee saw is over $70 (from whatever Lipshaw is
this week) and the specially-manufactured double-bladed saw about $500,
pathologist can't have one in these days of Good Management, so I
go to a hardware store and buy a five dollar hacksaw.
Who is responsible for completing the decalcification, the pathologist
histotechnologist? This question needs to be settled for every specimen.
couple of weeks ago I was working in a lab I'd never worked in before.
important decalcification specimen - a curetted bone tumor - carefully
and and put it into (the real thing, Cliff) Decal. The histotechnologist
pleasant elderly woman who had clearly never looked at a slide in her
and wasn't about to start at the behest of a wandering pathologist - put
specimen away and never mentioned it to me again until I asked her about
at the end of the week. It appeared that I was supposed to go get it off
shelf and get it into a cassette. Bad slip-up, but the sort of thing one
apt to fall into the first week on the job
Cliff adds: >>Second, decalcifiers that contain HCl (hydrochloric acid)
should never, and we mean never, be mixed directly with formalin. The
combination of HCl and formaldehyde causes an extremely carcinogenic
known as bis-chloromethylether.<< Uh, Cliff, you left something out here
Decal and Decal-Stat contain hydrochloric acid? - I've heard the
bis-chloromethylether story and I've also heard it's an urban legend.
Kiernan, do you know the answer to this? I don't.
Histopathology laboratories are losing the skills needed to prepare and
ordinary calcified tissue. To keep them up, it's important for
and histotechnologist to insist on good preparation of ordinary junk
specimens - femoral heads from fractures are an important specimen to
on, since they're common, reasonably easy to prepare, and actually of
clinical importance, since unsuspected pathologic fractures (fractures
through deposits of metastatic cancer in the bone) are reasonably common
are important to diagnose.
A worthwhile reference likely to be on a pathologist's book shelf is in
of the AFIP fascicles: Tumors of the Bones and Joints, AFIP Atlas of
Pathology Third series fascicle 8, by Robert E. Fechner and Stacey E.
(Charlottesville VA), AFIP/UAREP 1992.
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