RE: RE.RE words

From:"Weems, Joyce" <>

Thanks for your comments - I are one!! Sometimes, tho, I'm not sure if I
manage it or it manages me! My departments include histology, cytology,
office, transcription and the morgue. I have a staff of 19 but not all at
once. Some areas are covered better than others, so on any given day, I may
be secretary, transcriptionist, histo tech, cyto prep tech, or diener. Then
I'm supposed to make sure the budget works, the revenue is good, the
employees get evaluated, manuals are kept up, and the work flows like smooth
water. I think I need chocolate. :>)
Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
Saint Joseph's Hospital of Atlanta

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Dawson, Glen []
	Sent:	Wednesday, December 06, 2000 2:06 PM
	To:	R.Wadley;
	Subject:	RE: RE.RE words

	Becoming a Histology Lab Manager is a slippery slope.  As histology
	more and more complex, the workload for the histo lab manager
	increases.  Sadly, the histology lab manager's pay index was the
	medical field related managerial position polled in the article
	"And Only the Crumbs Fell to Histology" from a lab magazine (which
	unfortunately, cannot recall now)which actually decreased. All this
	managers from other laboratory fields enjoyed healthy raises
coinciding with
	the healthy economy.   Bottom Line: respect histology lab managers
for the
	simple fact that they are working in an undervalued position in a
	undervalued field.

	Glen Dawson
	Lead IHC Histologist
	Dynacare Laboratories
	Milwaukee, WI

	-----Original Message-----
	From: R.Wadley []
	Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:22 PM
	Subject: Re: RE.RE words

		Hi All,

		I'm with Christine an this one.  I proudly call myself
	although chief cook & bottle washer sometimes seems more

		The hassle is with people who have the management
qualifications &
	nothing about the science.

		As scientists it is inevitable that to advance we must take
on more
	managerial roles.  This does drag you away from 'the bench', but at
	the decisions made are made by some-one who knows what the effect
will be.

		It might just be different terminology but the title Lab
Manager is
	by me, my management qualifications have been learnt 'on the job',
	degree is in Laboratory Science.  I could do a Masters in Management
but it
	would cost $20,000 & achieve nothing.

		Getting off the soap box now.


		Rob W.

	At 08:46 12/05/2000 +1000, you wrote:
	>I seem to have missed the beginning of a discussion, but the jist
of the
	>matter as I understand it is that there is some distain for the
	>'Laboratory Manager'
	>I find this a sad occurrence. Firstly there are some who have the
title of
	>their jobs dictated by higher authorities. Secondly if Laboratory
	>Professionals do not take the responsobility for their own
management then
	>it is most likely that their management duties will be devolved to
	>Administrative Managers who have no laboratory training at all. For
	>I don't care what people call me, my duty statemant says Principal
	>Scientific Oficer. Responsibitites - the mangement of the section.
	>When Scientific Officers loss control of their departments to pure
	>often they have no one to blame but themselves. I find my biggest
	>managerial task is just keeping 'the ship' on course and steered
	>our benchmark.    
	>These are my thoughts on the matter and I would be grateful if
	>could forward to me the e-mails that started this distain of the
title -
	>Laboratory Manager.
	>Christine Lee, MBA (Technology Management)
	>Principal Scientific Officer, 
	>School of Veterinary Science,
	>University of Queensland.
	>    P.S If anyone is going to smoke at the ears over what I have
	>please do it nicely. Laboratory managers cop heaps from all sides.
	Robert Wadley,
	Laboratory Manager
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