well said Joe - my thoughts exactly - money talks
Annie
2008/8/20 Rene J Buesa
> Joe:
> You are so RIGHT!
> René J.
>
> --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Joe Nocito wrote:
>
> From: Joe Nocito
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Microwave safety
> To: rjbuesa@yahoo.com, "Weems, Joyce"
> Cc: "histonet"
> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 5:33 PM
>
> this is my BIG beef. CAP insists on these questions, with the facade of
> safety concerns and runs with it. They're like law makers. They only make
> laws that doesn't affect them. My question is how many of the CAP has stock
>
> or some other private interest in these companies. Now for the good one
> (and
> I know I'm gonna get flamed on this one. This time, there is no CEO to
> call,
> so who has the last laugh now?) It's these microwave companies that lobby
> CAP, JACHO and OSHA in the "interest" of safety. Bull paddies!!!
> I've used
> household microwaves in the lab since the 1980's. Hell, Biogenex was
> touting
> antigen retrieval with lead thiocyanide using a microwave back in the late
> 80s and NOW, all of a sudden, it's a problem. Deer pebbles.
> My Knights of Columbus Council was having a taco sale at church one time.
> One of the members wrapped some tortillas in a towel to warm them up. He
> thought he set the timer for 2 minutes, but set it for 20 minutes. We went
> outside to sell our tacos. When we went back to the kitchen, the microwave
> was smoking and the towel was on fire. Almost set the church on fire.
> That's
> the only accident I had with a microwave. I've had more accidents using a
> hot plate than with a microwave. Here's where I date myself, I was heating
>
> up basic fuchsin making stock Mayer's mucicarmine solution. I walked away
> from the hot plate and forgot about it until I heard a POP. I ran back into
> the lab to find a nice magenta color all over the counter, ceiling and
> walls.
> The sad thing is that no one will confront CAP about this. I mean someone
> with clout. I may have a mouth, but I have no clout. A man has to know his
> limitations. We need to get together and petition CAP, but we won't get far
>
> because the pathologists own CAP.
> Now, let the flaming begin.
>
> JTT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rene J Buesa"
> To: "Weems, Joyce"
> Cc: "histonet"
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:28 AM
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Microwave safety
>
>
> Yes, the train left the station long time ago, precisely the moment the CAP
> embraced this issue and decided to enforce it!
> René J.
>
> --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Weems, Joyce wrote:
>
> From: Weems, Joyce
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Microwave safety
> To: rjbuesa@yahoo.com
> Cc: "histonet"
> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 11:08 AM
>
> The sad thing is that we all know this, but it continues to be a growing
> issue
> in our country. What can we do to stop it? It's like a run-away train? j
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J
> Buesa
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:57 AM
> To: Joe Nocito; Anne van Binsbergen
> Cc: histonet
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Microwave safety
>
> Joe and Anne:
> Have you both forgotten that every time a lab buys a cheap "home"
> microwave, the large lab equipment manufacturing companies lose a sale?
> Have you forgotten that if an accident happens (no matter how remote the
> possibility is) any "good claims attorney" will be able to twist the
> issue to "nail" somebody for using an equipment "against the
> manufacturer's specifications"?
> We are talking about monetary interests, not about personnel safety!
> René J.
>
> --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Anne van Binsbergen wrote:
>
> From: Anne van Binsbergen
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Microwave safety
> To: "Joe Nocito"
> Cc: "histonet"
> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 8:46 AM
>
> hey joe
> i have had accidents in my kitchen - but never in the lab
>
> im also getting a little tired of the CAP dictatorship - and we have not
> even
> started yet!!!
> if they were all dyed-in-the-wool histotechs with years and years of
> experience
> i would find it easier to accept - but then again if they had all that
> histo
> experience they would certainly not be expecting/demanding all these silly
> 'improvements'
>
> am also flipping annoyed that i am being told which EQA i can and cannot
> use
> - the list of CAP approved EQA facilities does not include NEQAS or RCPA
> QAP,
> both of which i use and am extremely satisfied with ....
>
> CAP are all about the money
>
> thats my vent for the decade
>
> whew....i feel better already!!!!
> abudhabiannie
> 2008/8/19 Joe Nocito
>
> > Histoland,
> > has anyone ever experienced or heard of an accident while using a
> "for home
> > use only" microwave? I have never had an accident. Before I go on
> another
> > tangent about CAP and OSHA, I'd like to know what everyone else
> experience
> > is. Since everyone is running around, changing the way they do things
> just
> > because CAP says breast cases have to be documented as to the length
> > of
> time
> > these cases have been fixing in formalin. Uh-oh, I feel it coming on.
> > Another tangent. I feel the flames warming up.
> >
> > JTT
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