[Histonet] Washing cassette lids

From:"Featherstone, Annette"



We put our lids in the processor cleaning cycle.
Annette 

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Today's Topics:

   1. HT schools (Amber McKenzie)
   2. Re: stainless steel bucket (Jackie M O'Connor)
   3. Re: surveillance cameras in the lab (Peter Carroll)
   4. RE: surveillance cameras in the lab (Baldridge, Lee Ann)
   5. RE surveillance cameras and terrorism--baloney (JR R)
   6. RE: surveillance cameras in the lab (Bill)
   7. stainless steel container (sharon.osborn@comcast.net)
   8. RE: surveillance cameras in the lab (Weber, Susan (VHACLE))
   9. RE: surveillance cameras in the lab (Chung, Luong)
  10. RE: surveillance cameras in the lab
      (Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED))
  11. Re: surveillance cameras in the lab (Peter Carroll)
  12. RE: surveillance cameras in the lab (Baldridge, Lee Ann)
  13. RE: surveillance cameras in the lab
      (Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED))
  14. Re: surveillance cameras in the lab (Peter Carroll)
  15. RE: stainless steel bucket (Ford Royer)
  16. Re: surveillance cameras in the lab (Markus F. Meyenhofer)
  17. Cross polarization and collagen I and III (Liz Chlipala)
  18. RE: Cross polarization and collagen I and III (James Watson)
  19. Workload Recording (Amy Self)
  20. RE: Workload Recording (Martin, Gary)
  21. Re: HT schools (Peggy Bisher)
  22. RE: p16 on Ventana (Bernice Frederick)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:08:53 -0500
From: "Amber McKenzie" 
Subject: [Histonet] HT schools
To: 
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Even if the online schools teach the theory of Histology, they expect the supervisor/techs to teach the potential HT's how to perform Histology.  Even though there is no practical anymore, potential HT's have to be taught the hands on part of the job with OJT.  Even though I've heard many people say that there is no more OJT, really there is b/c if these future HT's don't attend an actual HT school where there are classrooms/practice labs full of teachers, then we as working HT's have to teach our future co-workers how to do our job so that we'll have more people to pick from to hire.  Does any other profession handle their future employee's like this or is Histology in a category of its own?  

 

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From: Patsy Ruegg [mailto:pruegg@ihctech.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:46 AM
To: 'Cheri Miller'; rjbuesa@yahoo.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Amber McKenzie
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HT schools

 

Remember that now there is no practical portion of the HT exam, so they are

not being tested on hands on experiences anyway.  The most difficult problem

I have with training people on the job (and I have trained many) is that now

they are not prepared to take the exam because they are examined all on

theory.  I have some really well trained people who can do the work really

well, but they have a hard time taking the computer test which they pretty

much have to memorize out of books.

Patsy

 

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC

IHCtech

12635 Montview Blvd. #215

Aurora, CO 80045

720-859-4060

fax 720-859-4110

pruegg@ihctech.net

www.ihctech.net

www.ihcrg.org    

 

 

 

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[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Cheri Miller

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:05 AM

To: rjbuesa@yahoo.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; 'Amber McKenzie'

Subject: RE: [Histonet] HT schools

 

Someone has to teach them the "hands on" part of histology. I do not leave

this to my staff. I teach / give them the skills they need to perform the

practical part of their profession. As their supervisor I am very much

involved in their training. I am sure I am not the only one.??

 

Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)

Histology Supervisor

Physicians Laboratory,P.C.

Omaha, Ne. 

402 738 5052

 

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[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa

Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:42 PM

To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Amber McKenzie

Subject: Re: [Histonet] HT schools

 

Wrong! The advantage of the "on line" or "distance learning" courses is that

they provide the theory on line while you are working at a given laboratory

doing your training (or even as part of your daily work) so there is no

"actual training" to be done by the supervisor.

At this moment NAACLS has 30 HT and 3 HTL accredited programs only, with an

overall capacity of about 300-325 students, and this will not be enough to

take care of  all the retiring histotechs.

Costs is one of the reasons why the number of HTs schools is dwindling.

René J.

 

 

--- On Fri, 8/1/08, Amber McKenzie  wrote:

 

From: Amber McKenzie 

Subject: [Histonet] HT schools

To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 1:23 PM

 

Where are all the HT accredited schools and why aren't there more out

there?  I've seen the online classes' people can take, but that

requires

them to be trained in a lab, as well, for the "hands on" part.  So,

actually the supervisor still has to train potential HT's "on the

job"

before they can sit for the board exam.  Right? 

 

 

 

 

 



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:13:18 -0500
From: Jackie M O'Connor 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] stainless steel bucket
To: "Amber McKenzie" 
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu,
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Dog supply store.   I purchase stainless steel water buckets for my kennel 
- they even have handles on them.





"Amber McKenzie"  
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08/04/2008 11:06 AM

To

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Subject
[Histonet] stainless steel bucket






Does anyone know where I can purchase a stainless steel basket/bucket to
wash my cassette lids in?  We use xylene and Liqui-Nox to wash them each
day and our plastic buckets eventually end up tearing and breaking over
time and I have to constantly replace them, so I'm looking for something
more stable like stainless steel. 

 

 

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:13:26 -0400
From: Peter Carroll 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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 > In these times of terror concerns I am not sure I would work in a 
place where I did not feel secure and the use of these devices
 > help in that matter.

Wasn't it Ben Franklin who said "He who sacrifices freedom for security 
deserves neither"?





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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:14:08 -0400
From: "Baldridge, Lee Ann" 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab
To: Patsy Ruegg , "'Cheri Miller'"
	, 	"Pathrm35@comcast.net" ,
	"histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
	
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This is my take on the situation:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Ben Franklin

It doesn't matter how many cameras there are, if someone wants to do something they will find a way.  I came in this morning to find someone had stolen my computer speakers and one of our printers from our AutoStainers.

Lee Ann Baldridge
IUSM
Indpls., IN.

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy Ruegg
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:46 PM
To: 'Cheri Miller'; Pathrm35@comcast.net; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

Come on.
In these times of terror concerns I am not sure I would work in a place
where I did not feel secure and the use of these devices help in that
matter.
We built a brand new University of Colorado Health Sciences Center and there
are cameras all over the place as well as lock down.  If you do not have an
access card you cannot get into the labs.  This was a pain at first but with
all the crazy's we have to worry about out there it now makes me feel
better.
I just read in the paper this morning about a researcher whose house was
bombed by Peta types for doing animal research, and we have had all sorts of
disturbances over the years with precious research animals being released,
protests, etc.
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
IHCtech
12635 Montview Blvd. #215
Aurora, CO 80045
720-859-4060
fax 720-859-4110
pruegg@ihctech.net
www.ihctech.net
www.ihcrg.org



-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Cheri Miller
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:08 AM
To: Pathrm35@comcast.net; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

That is B.S....I wouldn't work in a lab that used covalence camera's for
what ever reason

Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Physicians Laboratory,P.C.
Omaha, Ne.
402 738 5052

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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

I was wondering how many techs out there have cameras in their labs, either
for security or to monitor employees. I went to work Sunday night and
noticed that 4 cameras were installed in the lab over the weekend, with more
to come.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:14:43 -0700
From: JR R 
Subject: [Histonet] RE surveillance cameras and terrorism--baloney
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I work in a secure building--you need proximty cards to get in, use the elevators, etc.  But cameras in the lab seem rather much.  If you have a Union, I woud consider make a greivance out of it--unsafe and hostile work environment, kind of thing.
 
Jerry Ricks
Research Scientist
University of Washington
Department of Pathology.> From: pruegg@ihctech.net> To: cmiller@physlab.com; Pathrm35@comcast.net; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:46:26 -0600> Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab> CC: > > Come on.> In these times of terror concerns I am not sure I would work in a place> where I did not feel secure and the use of these devices help in that> matter.> We built a brand new University of Colorado Health Sciences Center and there> are cameras all over the place as well as lock down. If you do not have an> access card you cannot get into the labs. This was a pain at first but with> all the crazy's we have to worry about out there it now makes me feel> better. > I just read in the paper this morning about a researcher whose house was> bombed by Peta types for doing animal research, and we have had all sorts of> disturbances over the years with precious research animals being released,> protests, etc.> Patsy> > Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
 > IHCtech> 12635 Montview Blvd. #215> Aurora, CO 80045> 720-859-4060> fax 720-859-4110> pruegg@ihctech.net> www.ihctech.net> www.ihcrg.org > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern=2Eedu> [mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Cheri Miller> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:08 AM> To: Pathrm35@comcast.net; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab> > That is B.S....I wouldn't work in a lab that used covalence camera's for> what ever reason> > Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)> Histology Supervisor> Physicians Laboratory,P.C.> Omaha, Ne. > 402 738 5052> > -----Original Message-----> From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> [mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of> Pathrm35@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:21 AM> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> Subject: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab> > I was wondering how many techs ou
 t there have cameras in their labs, either> for security or to monitor employees. I went to work Sunday night and> noticed that 4 cameras were installed in the lab over the weekend, with more> to come.> _______________________________________________> Histonet mailing list> Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet> > > PRIVILEGED / CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION may be contained in this message. If> you are not the addressee intended / indicated or agent responsible for> delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby notified that you are in> possession of confidential and privileged information. Any dissemination,> distribution, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have> received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and> delete this email from your system.> > > > > PRIVILEGED / CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION may be contained in this message. If> you are not the addressee intended / indicated 
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:18:56 -0500
From: Bill 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab
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At 10:46 AM -0600 8/4/08, Patsy Ruegg wrote:
>In these times of terror concerns I am not sure I would work in a place
>where I did not feel secure and the use of these devices help in that
>matter.

"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
-Benjamin Franklin

BB



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:20:11 +0000
From: sharon.osborn@comcast.net
Subject: [Histonet] stainless steel container
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Amber, consider looking in a kitchen ware department for stainless steel mixing bowls or tall cannister sets with the appropriate sized containers that you want.  Also, commercial kitchen/restuarant suppliers will have large stainless steel containers as well as varying sizes.  If you have a Smart and Final, they sometimes have cooking utensils.

sharon osborn, BS,HT(ASCP)CT
LabVision
ThermoFisher Scientific
Fremont, CA




Message: 11
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:06:26 -0500
From: "Amber McKenzie" 
Subject: [Histonet] stainless steel bucket
To: 
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Does anyone know where I can purchase a stainless steel basket/bucket to
wash my cassette lids in?  We use xylene and Liqui-Nox to wash them each
day and our plastic buckets eventually end up tearing and breaking over
time and I have to constantly replace them, so I'm looking for something
more stable like stainless steel. 



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:25:20 -0400
From: "Weber, Susan (VHACLE)" 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab
To: "Patsy Ruegg" , "Cheri Miller"
	,	,
	
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Yes. Security is of the highest priority for these matters, however,
were the cameras in the "public" places? Entrances and exits which need
to be and usually are monitored I would understand. We also have
lockdown procedures and cameras in the "public" areas and key card
accesses which, yes are a pain, but necessary, especially in these
times. It is also quite clear that you are under video surveillance
(there are signs POSTED everywhere!) Four cameras, which seem to be
"monitoring" the workforce I do have a problem with. Silently installing
them on a weekend without benefit of explanation, I have a problem with.


Susan M Weber HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Louis Stokes Cleveland VA Medical Center
10701 East Blvd
Cleveland, Ohio 44106
(216) 791-3800 X6154

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy
Ruegg
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:46 PM
To: 'Cheri Miller'; Pathrm35@comcast.net;
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

Come on.
In these times of terror concerns I am not sure I would work in a place
where I did not feel secure and the use of these devices help in that
matter.
We built a brand new University of Colorado Health Sciences Center and
there
are cameras all over the place as well as lock down.  If you do not have
an
access card you cannot get into the labs.  This was a pain at first but
with
all the crazy's we have to worry about out there it now makes me feel
better.  
I just read in the paper this morning about a researcher whose house was
bombed by Peta types for doing animal research, and we have had all
sorts of
disturbances over the years with precious research animals being
released,
protests, etc.
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
IHCtech
12635 Montview Blvd. #215
Aurora, CO 80045
720-859-4060
fax 720-859-4110
pruegg@ihctech.net
www.ihctech.net
www.ihcrg.org    
 


-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Cheri
Miller
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:08 AM
To: Pathrm35@comcast.net; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

That is B.S....I wouldn't work in a lab that used covalence camera's for
what ever reason

Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Physicians Laboratory,P.C.
Omaha, Ne. 
402 738 5052

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Pathrm35@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:21 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

I was wondering how many techs out there have cameras in their labs,
either
for security or to monitor employees. I went to work Sunday night and
noticed that 4 cameras were installed in the lab over the weekend, with
more
to come.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:27:31 -0400
From: "Chung, Luong" 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab
To: "Baldridge, Lee Ann" ,	"Patsy Ruegg"
	, "Cheri Miller" ,
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You should call up one of the Television networks and make a "reality show" out of it.

Just a thought.



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Baldridge, Lee Ann
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:14 PM
To: Patsy Ruegg; 'Cheri Miller'; Pathrm35@comcast.net;
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab


This is my take on the situation:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Ben Franklin

It doesn't matter how many cameras there are, if someone wants to do something they will find a way.  I came in this morning to find someone had stolen my computer speakers and one of our printers from our AutoStainers.

Lee Ann Baldridge
IUSM
Indpls., IN.

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patsy Ruegg
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:46 PM
To: 'Cheri Miller'; Pathrm35@comcast.net; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

Come on.
In these times of terror concerns I am not sure I would work in a place
where I did not feel secure and the use of these devices help in that
matter.
We built a brand new University of Colorado Health Sciences Center and there
are cameras all over the place as well as lock down.  If you do not have an
access card you cannot get into the labs.  This was a pain at first but with
all the crazy's we have to worry about out there it now makes me feel
better.
I just read in the paper this morning about a researcher whose house was
bombed by Peta types for doing animal research, and we have had all sorts of
disturbances over the years with precious research animals being released,
protests, etc.
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
IHCtech
12635 Montview Blvd. #215
Aurora, CO 80045
720-859-4060
fax 720-859-4110
pruegg@ihctech.net
www.ihctech.net
www.ihcrg.org



-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Cheri Miller
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:08 AM
To: Pathrm35@comcast.net; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

That is B.S....I wouldn't work in a lab that used covalence camera's for
what ever reason

Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Physicians Laboratory,P.C.
Omaha, Ne.
402 738 5052

-----Original Message-----
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Pathrm35@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:21 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

I was wondering how many techs out there have cameras in their labs, either
for security or to monitor employees. I went to work Sunday night and
noticed that 4 cameras were installed in the lab over the weekend, with more
to come.
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:27:47 -0400
From: "Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED)" 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab
To: Bill ,	histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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I don't think Ben Franklin's quote applies here: we are talking about a
place of employment not your home. 


Jeanine Bartlett
Infectious Diseases Pathology Branch
(404) 639-3590 
jeanine.bartlett@cdc.hhs.gov


-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:19 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

At 10:46 AM -0600 8/4/08, Patsy Ruegg wrote:
>In these times of terror concerns I am not sure I would work in a place

>where I did not feel secure and the use of these devices help in that 
>matter.

"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
-Benjamin Franklin

BB

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:33:11 -0400
From: Peter Carroll 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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 > I don't think Ben Franklin's quote applies here: we are talking about 
a place of employment not your home.

though we're quickly approaching content off-topic for this list, id 
like to raise the rhetorical question: civil-liberties dont apply in the 
workplace? i dont know about y'all, but i spend as much time at work as 
i do at home, by and large, and would be rather bothered if cameras 
appeared with no justification/explanation. just as i have nothing to 
hide from said cameras, they have no reason to watch me, by default.




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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:36:24 -0400
From: "Baldridge, Lee Ann" 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab
To: "Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED)" , Bill
	, "histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
	
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Oh but it does. Our liberties are eroded away a little bit at a time. Where does it stop?
Lee Ann Baldridge
IUSM
Indpls.,IN.

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Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:28 PM
To: Bill; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

I don't think Ben Franklin's quote applies here: we are talking about a
place of employment not your home.


Jeanine Bartlett
Infectious Diseases Pathology Branch
(404) 639-3590
jeanine.bartlett@cdc.hhs.gov


-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:19 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab

At 10:46 AM -0600 8/4/08, Patsy Ruegg wrote:
>In these times of terror concerns I am not sure I would work in a place

>where I did not feel secure and the use of these devices help in that
>matter.

"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
-Benjamin Franklin

BB

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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:39:40 -0400
From: "Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED)" 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab
To: "Peter Carroll" 
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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I agree they should have been notified and all that but my point is that
if I do not like the policies where I work I am free to go somewhere
else. 


Jeanine Bartlett
Infectious Diseases Pathology Branch
(404) 639-3590 
jeanine.bartlett@cdc.hhs.gov


-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Peter
Carroll
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:33 PM
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab


 > I don't think Ben Franklin's quote applies here: we are talking about
a place of employment not your home.

though we're quickly approaching content off-topic for this list, id
like to raise the rhetorical question: civil-liberties dont apply in the
workplace? i dont know about y'all, but i spend as much time at work as
i do at home, by and large, and would be rather bothered if cameras
appeared with no justification/explanation. just as i have nothing to
hide from said cameras, they have no reason to watch me, by default.


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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:42:05 -0400
From: Peter Carroll 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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 > if I do not like the policies where I work I am free to go somewhere 
else.

thats a useful option... until the point where every viable place you 
could work is subject to the same draconian policy, cameras and lack of 
explanation.




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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:23 -0500
From: "Ford Royer" 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] stainless steel bucket
To: "'Amber McKenzie'" ,
	
Message-ID: <008101c8f659$df5aa100$7701a80a@Ford>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but we carry stainless steel
buckets/beakers/storage containers.

Link:
http://stores.implex.net/minnesotamedical/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=56
_193&zenid=b780c44693573ef63f1b26b8b8bcb664


Ford M. Royer, MT(ASCP)
Histology Product Manager
Minnesota Medical, Inc.
7177 Madison Ave. W.
Golden Valley, MN 55427-3601
CELL:  612-839-1046
Phone:  763-542-8725
Fax:  763-546-4830

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Amber
McKenzie
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:06 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] stainless steel bucket

Does anyone know where I can purchase a stainless steel basket/bucket to
wash my cassette lids in?  We use xylene and Liqui-Nox to wash them each
day and our plastic buckets eventually end up tearing and breaking over
time and I have to constantly replace them, so I'm looking for something
more stable like stainless steel. 

 

 

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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:55:23 -0400
From: "Markus F. Meyenhofer" 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab
To: "Peter Carroll" 
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Message-ID: <059201c8f65b$45dce360$0f893cd1@DJ4VDH31>
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	reply-type=response

Well said (Ben's words)
Thank you!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Carroll" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] surveillance cameras in the lab


> > In these times of terror concerns I am not sure I would work in a 
> place where I did not feel secure and the use of these devices
> > help in that matter.
> 
> Wasn't it Ben Franklin who said "He who sacrifices freedom for security=20
> deserves neither"?
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:59:26 -0600
From: "Liz Chlipala" 
Subject: [Histonet] Cross polarization and collagen I and III
To: 
Message-ID:
	
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hello again
 
If anyone remembers my post late last week on cross polarization the
reason why I asked that is that I have a paper of a technique that used
cross polarization and picrosirius stained slides to differenciate
collagen I fibers from collagen III fibers.  In the paper they basically
stated the the thicker collagen I fibers looked orange-red and the
thinner collagen III fibers looked green.  I have not heard of this
before and was a bit confused, I thought that picrosirus just stained
for collagen, so I initally thought that maybe cross polarization is
different than routine polarization. I have since found out that they
are one in the same.  My question now is there anyone out there familar
with using picrosirus to differenciate collagen III from collagen I and
can you do that?
 
Thanks in advance
 
PS - I do have the paper if anyone is intersted in looking at it.
 
Liz
 
Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
P.O. Box 18592
Boulder, CO 80308
phone (303) 682-3949
fax (303) 682-9060
liz@premierlab.com
www.premierlab.com  
 
Ship to Address:
 
Premier Laboratory, LLC
1567 Skyway Drive
Unit E
Longmont, CO 80504
 


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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:27:20 -0700
From: "James Watson" 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Cross polarization and collagen I and III
To: "Liz Chlipala" ,
	
Message-ID:
	
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Liz,

I have watching this thread to see if someone mentions a rotating stage.
Having serviced microscopes in the past, I know that there are
polarizing microscopes that are set up with a rotating polarizer below
the condenser and a stationary analyzer (same as a Polarizer but called
an analyzer because it is above the specimen) above the objectives.
Then once you have aligned the polarizer and analyzer to get the
polarized light you can rotate the stage of the microscope to see the
different colors depending on the alignment of the crystal or fiber.

Picrosirus red will stain other tissue elements and the conformation of
what is stained is collagen is with polarization (Histological &
Histochemical Methods J.A. Kiernan  pg. 150).  This is a good reference
on this technique.

Please send me a copy of this paper.  Thank you

James Watson HT  ASCP
Facilities Manager of Histology
GNF  Genomics Institute of the Novartis Research Foundation
Tel    858-332-4647
Fax   858-812-1915
jwatson@gnf.org


-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Liz
Chlipala
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:59 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Cross polarization and collagen I and III

Hello again
 
If anyone remembers my post late last week on cross polarization the
reason why I asked that is that I have a paper of a technique that used
cross polarization and picrosirius stained slides to differenciate
collagen I fibers from collagen III fibers.  In the paper they basically
stated the the thicker collagen I fibers looked orange-red and the
thinner collagen III fibers looked green.  I have not heard of this
before and was a bit confused, I thought that picrosirus just stained
for collagen, so I initally thought that maybe cross polarization is
different than routine polarization. I have since found out that they
are one in the same.  My question now is there anyone out there familar
with using picrosirus to differenciate collagen III from collagen I and
can you do that?
 
Thanks in advance
 
PS - I do have the paper if anyone is intersted in looking at it.
 
Liz
 
Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
P.O. Box 18592
Boulder, CO 80308
phone (303) 682-3949
fax (303) 682-9060
liz@premierlab.com
www.premierlab.com  
 
Ship to Address:
 
Premier Laboratory, LLC
1567 Skyway Drive
Unit E
Longmont, CO 80504
 
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:39:45 -0400
From: "Amy Self" 
Subject: [Histonet] Workload Recording
To: 
Message-ID:
	
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Histonetters,

 

Does anyone have any info and/or charts on workload recording in
histology that they would be willing to share with me?  Thanks in
advance, Amy

 

 

Georgetown Hospital System

Dept. of Pathology



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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:43:57 -0700
From: "Martin, Gary" 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Workload Recording
To: "Amy Self" ,
	
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Forget logs ... just get some cameras :)

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Amy Self
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:40 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Workload Recording

Histonetters,

 

Does anyone have any info and/or charts on workload recording in
histology that they would be willing to share with me?  Thanks in
advance, Amy

 

 

Georgetown Hospital System

Dept. of Pathology



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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:44:49 -0400
From: Peggy Bisher 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] HT schools
To: Amber McKenzie ,
	
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I would say that teaching Electron Microscopy is the same. There are a few
schools (two, I believe) that offer an official degree (it's an Associate
Degree) in Electron Microscopy, but most of my learning has been on the job
and that is how I work with my students - one on one.

Here at Princeton we offer a class in electron optics, but it is just
theory. 

My first job was at the National Institutes of Health and my boss there had
a degree in theoretical physics. He gave me a few books and I taught myself,
at least in the beginning. He knew the instrument, but nothing about sample
prep. 

The Microscopy Society of America does offer a Electron Microscopist
Certification for those who want to have this. But I have been doing EM
since 1980, so never felt the need to be certified.



Margaret E. Bisher
Electron Microscopy & Histology Core Facility Manager
Department of Molecular Biology
Princeton University
Moffett Laboratory, Room 113
Princeton, New Jersey
Office: (609) 258-7026
Fax: (609) 258-8468
mbisher@princeton.edu




On 8/4/08 1:08 PM, "Amber McKenzie"  wrote:

> Even if the online schools teach the theory of Histology, they expect the
> supervisor/techs to teach the potential HT's how to perform Histology.  Even
> though there is no practical anymore, potential HT's have to be taught the
> hands on part of the job with OJT.  Even though I've heard many people say
> that there is no more OJT, really there is b/c if these future HT's don't
> attend an actual HT school where there are classrooms/practice labs full of
> teachers, then we as working HT's have to teach our future co-workers how to
> do our job so that we'll have more people to pick from to hire.  Does any
> other profession handle their future employee's like this or is Histology in a
> category of its own?
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patsy Ruegg [mailto:pruegg@ihctech.net]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:46 AM
> To: 'Cheri Miller'; rjbuesa@yahoo.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
> Amber McKenzie
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] HT schools
> 
>  
> 
> Remember that now there is no practical portion of the HT exam, so they are
> 
> not being tested on hands on experiences anyway.  The most difficult problem
> 
> I have with training people on the job (and I have trained many) is that now
> 
> they are not prepared to take the exam because they are examined all on
> 
> theory.  I have some really well trained people who can do the work really
> 
> well, but they have a hard time taking the computer test which they pretty
> 
> much have to memorize out of books.
> 
> Patsy
> 
>  
> 
> Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
> 
> IHCtech
> 
> 12635 Montview Blvd. #215
> 
> Aurora, CO 80045
> 
> 720-859-4060
> 
> fax 720-859-4110
> 
> pruegg@ihctech.net
> 
> www.ihctech.net
> 
> www.ihcrg.org    
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> 
> [mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Cheri Miller
> 
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:05 AM
> 
> To: rjbuesa@yahoo.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; 'Amber McKenzie'
> 
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] HT schools
> 
>  
> 
> Someone has to teach them the "hands on" part of histology. I do not leave
> 
> this to my staff. I teach / give them the skills they need to perform the
> 
> practical part of their profession. As their supervisor I am very much
> 
> involved in their training. I am sure I am not the only one.??
> 
>  
> 
> Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)
> 
> Histology Supervisor
> 
> Physicians Laboratory,P.C.
> 
> Omaha, Ne. 
> 
> 402 738 5052
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> 
> [mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
> 
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:42 PM
> 
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Amber McKenzie
> 
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] HT schools
> 
>  
> 
> Wrong! The advantage of the "on line" or "distance learning" courses is that
> 
> they provide the theory on line while you are working at a given laboratory
> 
> doing your training (or even as part of your daily work) so there is no
> 
> "actual training" to be done by the supervisor.
> 
> At this moment NAACLS has 30 HT and 3 HTL accredited programs only, with an
> 
> overall capacity of about 300-325 students, and this will not be enough to
> 
> take care of  all the retiring histotechs.
> 
> Costs is one of the reasons why the number of HTs schools is dwindling.
> 
> René J.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Amber McKenzie  wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> From: Amber McKenzie 
> 
> Subject: [Histonet] HT schools
> 
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> 
> Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 1:23 PM
> 
>  
> 
> Where are all the HT accredited schools and why aren't there more out
> 
> there?  I've seen the online classes' people can take, but that
> 
> requires
> 
> them to be trained in a lab, as well, for the "hands on" part.  So,
> 
> actually the supervisor still has to train potential HT's "on the
> 
> job"
> 
> before they can sit for the board exam.  Right?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:50:48 -0500
From: "Bernice Frederick" 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] p16 on Ventana
To: "'Sharon.Davis-Devine'" ,
	
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Both Labvision and novacastra (Leica vision biosystems) sell it.


Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
Northwestern University
Pathology Core Facility
ECOGPCO-RL 
710 N Fairbanks Court
Olson 8-421
Chicago,IL 60611
312-503-3723


-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Sharon.Davis-Devine
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:00 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] p16 on Ventana

Hey Histonetters!  Is anyone out there in histoworld running p16 on the
Ventana system?  If so, can you provide us with your protocol and where
you are ordering it from?  We are aware that MTM is presently the only
vendor for p16 but it is rather pricey and are wondering if there are
any alternatives available out there.  Once again thank you so much for
your help.  

 

Sharon Davis-Devine, CT (ASCP)

Cytology Supervisor

Carle Clinic

602 West University

Urbana, Illinois 61801

Phone:  217-383-3572

Email:  sharon.davis-devine@carle.com

 

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