RE: [Histonet] Hospital fetus disposition survey

From:"Rogerson Kemlo (ELHT) Pathology"

In the UK Hospitals abortions are limited to I think 24 weeks and I
think it's going to be reduced. Abortions can be carried out later if
the Mother's life is at risk and usually the foetus is vacuumed out; we
would never decapitate.

All such foetuses are cremated or given to the parents for burial;
whatever is there wish. I don't know what happens in the Clinics that
offer these procedures; it would be of interest to know.


-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of John
Kiernan
Sent: 24 August 2005 06:53
To: Tony Henwood
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; 'chiggerson@memhosp.com'
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Hospital fetus disposition survey

Dear Tony,

The Australian regulations reflect your country's 
ethical standards, which are probably the highest in
the world when it comes to recognizing human embryos,
human fetuses and demented adults as human beings. 

How do Australian abortionists dispose of their
spoils? In Canada, paid-for abortuses go through
a kitchen-sink garbage masher and then into 
the drains. Abortion is legal in Canada right up 
to 40 weeks, with the intrauterine decapitation 
method. Any Canadian baby can be killed just before
birth at the whim of its mother. The mother must 
not be asked for a reason, but she has to pay
the abortionist's fee. 

John Kiernan
London, Canada
-------------------------
Tony Henwood wrote:
> 
> Cindy,
> 
> The laws in Australia are different to elsewhere but in summery:
> 
> Stillborns greater than 20 weeks need to be buried/cremated.
> Under 20 weeks to be disposed of a/c to families wishes. At our
hospital,
> unless otherwise requested, we keep the fetuses for 6 months prior to
having
> them cremated by a local crematorium. The ashes are then sprinkled on
the
> rose garden at the hospital. The crematorium does this as a big favour
and
> we are in their debt. This procedure only applies to those fetuses
that have
> had a postmortem. The parents permission is always obtained.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC)
> Laboratory Manager & Senior Scientist
> The Children's Hospital at Westmead,
> Locked Bag 4001, Westmead, 2145, AUSTRALIA.
> Tel: 612 9845 3306
> Fax: 612 9845 3318
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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> chiggerson@memhosp.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2005 2:40 AM
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] Hospital fetus disposition survey
> 
> Histonetters,
> 
> We are evaluating our current practices for fetus disposal at our
facility
> and would like to know how both Catholic and non-Catholic hospitals
handle
> fetus disposition at their facilities. I am interested in practices
for
> both fetal loss greater than 20 weeks gestation  AND less than 20
weeks
> gestation (products of conception).
> 
> Please include religious affiliation, if any, of your institution.
> 
> 1.      Are parents given the option to have the hospital handle the
> disposition for the remains at < 20 wks, >20 weeks, or both?
> 
> 2.      If parents opt for hospital disposition, is it handled
on-site, or
> contracted by the hospital off-site (with a funeral home)?  If
off-site,
> is the patient charged for disposition?
> 
> 3.      Method of disposition? Cremation? Burial? Other?
> 
> 4.      Are remains collected/disposed of separately, or co-mingled
with
> other tissues?
> 
> 5.      Is disposal method dictated by State Law? Please include
state.
> 
> Any additional information you can give me about your practices would
be
> helpful.
> 
> Thank you in advance for your help.
> 
> Cindy
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