From:David Anderson

I have my original Social Security card that I got about 1960. It says very 
is an increasing problem and I am becoming more and more reluctant to give 
my SSN to anyone other than my employer and the government. Since Social 
Security is a government sponsored retirement program, paid for by me and my 
employer, no one else needs that number. In the future, anyone who demands 
it won't get my business.
David Anderson
Providence Health Center
Waco, TX

>From: Vinnie Della Speranza 
>Subject: Re: SSN
>Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 16:41:47 -0400
>Hi Gayle,
>I appreciate your views on this issue. How do you manage to get your
>ASCP continuing ed credit without your SS#? They require SS# for
>teleconference attendance as far as I recall.
>I will have to explore what this will require of NSH to accomplish but
>it would be great if you and others would give the society a reasonable
>opportunity to respond before advocating drastic action. After all, this
>issue only appeared a few hours ago on histonet and NSH is, after all ,
>a volunteer organization. We are sensitive and responsive to member
>needs. I do ask for your patience however. I for one am peddling as fast
>as I can.
>One problem that I do forsee. How many individuals will remember their
>NSH assigned member # when attending conferences and workshops and want
>to receive contact hours?? I wonder how many could produce their
>membership cards if necessary. Could you?
>I would appreciate anyone's feedback on this as we will want to be sure
>to develop program changes that will work smoothly and not cause members
>additional stress
>Vinnie Della Speranza
>NSH Vice President
> >>> Gayle Callis  08/07/02 03:17PM >>>
>This is true to some extent.  You can refuse to open up store accounts
>using a SSN, and I have done it - they provided a number instead.  If
>refuse to do it, I dig in my heels and say I will NOT provide SSN.  A
>phone provider ran into this objection, and I still have a cell phone
>As for banks, mine recommended removing SSN, drivers license #, and
>from personal checks - business cashiers have to write a state
>gobblydegook drivers license# (SSN no longer used here) or phone # in
>own handwriting on the check in front of me.  Banks/savings and loan,
>probably investment operations need SSN for tax purposes, but isn't
>this a
>govt requirement to prevent dodging April 15th income reporting!!
>Nordstroms is not making money for me - I'm paying them and my SSN is
>needed for that.
>Any change is going to take time, but it has to start somewhere. What
>someone refuses to give their SSN to NSH, then NSH WILL have to come
>with a solution - a membership number is like our state drivers
>number, gobblydegook, an account number.  Why not change and provide
>members a favor - comply with privcy wishes.
>I don't think NSH should be singled out BUT it does need to change,
>by members is the first step, it shows your objection to privacy
>and potential fraud.
>Just my thoughts - getting mean in my old age -
>Dear All:  Just would to point out that your SSN is required for the
>following in your every day life:  phone bills, electric bills, gas
>any kind of credit card to include department stores, Visa, etc, just
>any account you may have at a bank, savings loan, credit union, any
>transactions online involving money, things like internet providers as
>etc.  Why would one less thing like NSH make any possible difference?
>President Bush ever considered that almost everything in your life
>on the SSN? Just my thoughts on the subject.
>Tom Kuwahara
>Gayle Callis
>Research Histopathology Supervisor
>Veterinary Molecular Biology - Marsh Lab
>Montana State University - Bozeman
>19th and Lincoln St
>Bozeman MT 59717-3610
>406 994-6367 (lab with voice mail)
>406 994-4303 (FAX)

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