Third class countries polemics

From:=?UNKNOWN?Q?Agust=EDn?= Venzano

Dear netters: Please read how many postings have been forwarded to me
replying to my complain on something I've read in a recent Digest. But first
take a short break to think what do you all live for, what are your highest
values in life, what is the truth, what do you do for others' benefit...what
is God expecting from all of you..., what kind of legacy will you leave for
others after your death....

Sincerely yours

Agustin Jose Venzano Halliburton
INTA Castelar, Argentina

Monday, April 29th 2202 02.00 p.m.
Greg Dobbin wrote: >Bravo Agustin!
>You have written eloquantly and proudly on the subject! Just
>between you and I, I find many (not all) Americans look down their
>noses (an English expression for having an inflated image of self)
>at any country other their own, third world economy or otherwise!
>Canada is supposed to be a strong ally and friend of the US, but
>only when convenient for them it appears. Last week in a horrible
>accident, a US fighter pilot mistakenly bombed Canadian soldiers
>performing night exercises in Afgahnistan, killing 4 and seriously
>injuring 8 others. In 4 public appearances President Bush made the
>next day he never mentioned the accident once!
>Come to think of it, there wasn't a whisper of condolences heard on
>the Histonet from any of our American colleagues either, although
>they were happy to hear from evryone else following Sept. 11.
>(Sorry, I guess I'm in a cynical mood today!)
>Incidentally, one of the PhD candidates here at the Atlantic
>Veterinary College is from Argentina. His name is Javier Sanchez,
>he is doing a research project on Johne's Disease. Maybe you
>know him? I just forget right now, which University he is from in
>Anyway, your contributions to this list a valuable, and I look forward
>to learning more from you in the future! Have a nice day!

Monday, April 29th 2002 10.31 a.m.
Cynthia Favara wrote: Agustin,

We are such an arrogant society. I apologize for myself,  countrymen and

Hope your research goes well.


Cynthia Favara

Monday April 29th 2002 11.29 a.m.
Glen Dawson wrote: Agustine,

I don't recall EVER referring to the Argentine Republic as "Third World" so
you should save the diatribe for whomever it was that did and leave the rest
of us out of it.  I do need to shed some light on a few things for you
though.  Your assumption that researchers in the capitolist pigdog USA have
unlimited funds is WRONG.  Your assumption that only researchers in your
country sacrifice and perform miracles is WRONG.  Like most histotechs here,
I live from check to check with very little room for extravagance, so, don't
hate us because we are all rich, hate us because we live in a country of the
people, for the people, and by the people because THAT is why you should
truly be envious.

Glen A. Dawson  BS, HT & IHC (ASCP)
Lead IHC Technologist
Milwaukee, WI

Monday, April 29th 2002 03:59 p.m
Teri Johnson wrote: Agustin,
>Please do not respond to this individual.  He tends to become very
inflammatory in his responses to things posted on the Histonet.  His
opinions are his alone and do not necessarily reflect those of the rest of
>I thought your posting was fine and I enjoyed reading it. Thank you for
your thought-provoking commentary.
>You may receive more email similar to Mr. Dawsons, and some more of it may
come across the histonet.  Please don't spend a lot of time justifying or
explaining your reasons for sending it.  It only tends to increase the
polarity of the opinions until they die down again, sometime days or weeks
>Yes, this is a "free" and "open" forum, but things like this tend to get
out of hand.  I'd just hate to have you subjected to personal attack.
>Teri Johnson
>Managing Director Histology Core Facility
>Stowers Institute for Medical Research
>1000 E. 50th St.
>Kansas City, Missouri  64110

Monday, April 29th 2002 04:42 p.m.
Andrew Partain wrote: I think the point Augustine was trying to make is that
there is a noticeable
>and negative connotation concerning both the phrase 'third world' and the
>idea that those countries house 'third class' working-professionals;
>including those in a clinical, research and tech-driven environment.
>I think there exists a happy medium in where those of us who are US
>can both be patriotic and prideful as well as taking into consideration the
>negative effects our truly powerful republic, unlike Argentina at this
>can have on the rest the world.  Especially, given that what makes us so
>powerful is the often and historical exploitation of our more improvised
>neighbors(human capital) and their natural resources(all Latin American
>countries for starters.)
>Not to overly dissect and trivialize the phrase: "of the people, for the
>people, and by the people", but that sounds awfully simplistic, and
>resembles the censored and adulterated rhetoric given to second graders.
>Also, if you take into account both present immigration statistics and a
>good census of nationalities in labs across the country, you will find
>at work at our facilities, and who we work with hand-in-hand, to be people
>of the "third world".
>Just a thought...
 -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dawson, Glen []
>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:29 AM
>> To: Agustín Venzano; HistoNet Server
>> Subject: RE: Third class countries?

Monday, April 29th 2002 05:09 p.m.
Glen Dawson wrote:

>Agustin & All,
>I should know better to post on a Monday after coming into an
>mountain of work and after looking at the dollar figure on my paycheck.
>My apologies for the harsh wording on my previous post.
>Glen Dawson

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