From:"Morken, Tim"

Vicki wrote: << The controls to turn on the water are not where you would
accidentally run your hand under them so no one is getting sprayed with

Actually, we had this very problem with our GrossLab. The rinse water would
come on when someone reached for something on the shelf - spraying the whole
table with water. We put tape over the sensor to shut it off. We also found
the sensors frustrating to use - slow to react in general, but you can order
it with manual switches if you wish. Other than that we like this gross

Tim Morken

-----Original Message-----
From: Vicki Gauch []
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:51 PM

Our pathologists and residents all love this grossing station. The controls
to turn on the water are not where you would accidentally run your hand
under them so no one is getting sprayed with water and the amount of water
is controlled by the resident or you can have it as a
trickle or a steady stream. The water is only turned on by intentionally
holding your hand under the sensor which is NOT located at the level at
which you are grossing. To turn the water off, you do the same.
 There is no background noise in the unit and our transcriptionists have no
complaints with not being able to hear the dictations.  Believe me, if they
did we would have heard about it !!!
 The blocking sheet issue we solved by using the big paper clamps so that
the resident or pathologist has ready access to the sheet and is able to
write their pieces in.  They have no complaints with this set up.
 Maybe your experiences have not been positive ones, but I can only speak
from our experiences and we love the unit. Compared to what we had
previously (and still do have  on a few of our grossing stations) the
Grosslab Senior is a dream !!!

Albany, NY

>>>  04/16/02 01:09PM >>>
Vicki Gauch in Albany NY writes about the Shandon Grosslab Senior tissue 
grossing station:

>>The workstation is height adjustable, offers motion sensitive controls for

the water, waste disposal unit and rinse function for cleaning the flat 
grossing surface.  The unit is well lit and has plenty of room for 
instruments, ink, paper towels and whatever else you keep on your station.
also have our dictation system unit in the unit. I would say the only 
inconvenient part of the unit is that there is no place to keep blocking 
sheets (yes, we still use sheets we manually write in the number of 
pieces/block submitted).<<

I always dread encountering one of these fancy grossing stations - most of 
all the ones touted as "designed by a pathologist" at a new locum tenens
Most of them are nightmares of spraying water flashing lights, and 
dictation-obscuring noise. Any move is likely to be greeted by a spray of 
water that blows potentially infectious aerosol into your face.

If I ever have to design a grossing station, and suicide isn't an option, I 
want to be able to work with the lights on and the water off. I want 
magnification that works, including a dissecting microscope in easy reach. 
The station needs to be configured so that a pathologist can work alone (as 
Good Management now requires) or with an assistant (nearly halves my time 
spent grossing). The dictation system needs to be configured so that 
dictation isn't obscured by the noise of fans or running water.

And yes, I want a place to put that "blocking sheet". I rarely see a lab
writes down counts and other information about what was submitted in the 
cassette, and I think these records ought to be required, at least by the 
College of American Pathologists. It doesn't make sense to me that a patient

should be subjected to misery and expense to obtain a few very small 
specimens, and then the embedder (who came to work early after all, and is 
probably gone home by the time I gross) doesn't know how many pieces of 
tissue the pathologist put in the cassette.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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