RE: Activated Charcoal

From:"Charles W. Scouten, Ph.D."

Thanks to Fred Monson and a few others, the replies were very helpful.
I suspect you are right, paper would have done the same job.

Cordially,

Charles W.  Scouten, Ph.D.
myNeuroLab.com
5918 Evergreen Blvd.
St. Louis, MO 63134
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-----Original Message-----
From: Monson, Frederick C. [mailto:fmonson@wcupa.edu] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Charles W. Scouten, Ph.D.
Cc: 'List-HistoPath'
Subject: RE: Activated Charcoal

Dear Charles,
	Just for reference, when I prepare 20% formaldehyde from
paraformaldehyde, I always filter, by suction, on a Buetner funnel using
#2
Whatman paper after the heated solution has cooled.  This is because
there
is always some suspended material in the solution.  The solution is
always
clear after filtering.  Aged paraformaldehyde usually leaves more
suspended
debris - I don't know why, but flakes are depolymerized with greater
difficulty than the powder.
	I do not use activated charcoal to remove impurities, but my
guess
is that the charcoal removed suspended particles of undepolymerized
paraformaldehyde or other material from your prep.  I would have used
regular #2 Whatman in a small funnel [IN the hood].
	None of us really characterizes the formaldehyde concentration
after
depolymerization, so the final concentration of HCHO is always less than
the
percent of paraformaldehyde used in the prep.  I NEVER perfuse without
filtering first, but I always use simple paper filters. 

Regards,

Fred Monson

Frederick C. Monson, PhD   
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> ----------
> From: 	Charles W. Scouten, Ph.D.
> Sent: 	Friday, April 26, 2002 3:16 PM
> To: 	histonet@pathology.swmed.edu
> Subject: 	Activated Charcaol
> 
> Several years ago, I was using a perfusion with sucrose (instead of
> saline) first, as described by Brain Cragg, 1980, followed by standard
> paraformaldehyde (cooked into formaldehyde, don't yell)/glutaraldehype
> fixative.  I had a bottle of Bakers paraformaldehyde of indeterminant,
> but probably ancient, age.  Everything worked.  I ran out, and
switched
> to a new bottle of Fishers paraformaldehyde.  Half the fixative ran
> through, then the flow stopped.  Why the change?  I made the untrained
> amateurs guess that an impurity in the new paraformaldehyde was
causing
> the problem, that activated charcoal removed impurities, and ran the
> fixative through activated charcoal after preparing it and just before
> use.  This let it all flow through, and got satisfactory results.
> 
> Question:  What was going on?  Did the charcoal remove impurities, or
> only reduce the concentration?  Does paraformaldehyde deteriorate with
> age?  Why did the flow stop?
> 
> I have a current need to know.
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> Charles W.  Scouten, Ph.D.
> myNeuroLab.com
> 5918 Evergreen Blvd.
> St. Louis, MO 63134
> Ph: 314 522 0300  
> FAX  314 522 0277
> cwscouten@myneurolab.com
> www.myneurolab.com
> 
> 
> 
> 




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